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EDIT: Since this first post I have discovered some very interesting data by doing benchmarks under many different phases of an install. you will need to read the entire thread to understand all of these results. Do not go by the data in these first few posts. This was early on in the experimenting phase.

I was perplexed why I would be hearing about how SSDs need to be formatted in a speific way when they are wiped, and other talk about cloning from a typical HDD to an SSD causes "alignment:" issues.

So here is a quick benchmark experiment: Cloning vs Fresh Install

I wanted to know how much of a performance hit I would take upon performing a drive clone from my existing OS, as opposed to performing a fresh installation of the OS on my new Mushkin 90GB SSD. Right now I am currently running W7 Ultimate 64-bit.

Also note that my W7 Ultimate install is an upgrade from Vista Ultimate, that was in turn an upgrade from XP Pro x64. With this new drive my machine will have the first fresh install in about 5 years. Although I am still running with some of the atcual files and douments (even some programs) from my XP days, this OS is tweaked beyond comprehension and runs beautifully. It would be a shame if I needed to reinstall just to upgrade and reap all the benefits of my new SSD.

Here goes the 250GB Seagate 7200RPM HDD with all of my old programs. As you can see I was crawling along at a snail's pace in the HDD department.
250GBSeagatewitholdOS.png

Next the Mushkin 90GB Callisto Deluxe SSD with the exact same OS cloned to it.
90GBMushkinwitholdOS.png

Next we have the same exact drive, with a simple quick format done to it in Windows 7 to a normal NTSF file system. I then loaded a fresh install of Windows 7 64-bit and a few drivers. The results will amaze you:
90GBMuskinwithfreshinstall.png

In case you cannot see the data well, it goes like this:

Brand new SSD drive with the clone of an existing OS:
Diskmark result: 1073.8
Sequential read: 102.5 MB/s
Squential write: 102.1 MB/s
Radom seek = R/W: 92.3 MB/s

Same drive with a quick format done and a fresh install of Windows 7:
Diskmark result: 1077.5
Sequential read: 102.2 MB/s
Sequential write: 102.9 MB/s
Random seek + R/W: 92.8 MB/s

EDIT: Since this post was made I have discovered that my finding were based on bad data. I will link to the cleaned-up post with the corret data when I get a chance.

In this case, there has been virtually no benefit at all to performing a fresh install over a drive clone. Looks like I'll be cloning my SSD back to the original image that I know and love, with all my programs still intact.

Sucks I had to go throuigh all this work and subject my new SSD to undue hardship, but if it help some others that are curious about this then it was worth it.
Edited by PhillyOverclocker - 12/26/10 at 7:08pm
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Wow, that's some good info. Thanks for being the guinea pig tongue.gif +rep
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I think that if there's supposed to be a difference, then we might not be seeing a difference here because I think it may still be aligned to the alignment that the HDD had because you started with a clone instead of the fresh install.

So, can you install AS SSD and post a screen shot of it? I want to see something that I don't know how to explain right now (Christmas wore me out lol). There's a part of this program's interface in the screenshot that will tell me if the SSD is properly aligned to 1024KB.
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I always suspected this but you provide the hard data showing that there is virtually no difference at all.

The only time i would see that a fresh install would be better is if you are having preexisting issues in your current setup. But if you have a setup that is working solidly then yeah, no need to reinvent the wheel, clone it and zip away at high speed. smile.gif
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Originally Posted by TwoCables;11778532 
I think that if there's supposed to be a difference, then we might not be seeing a difference here because I think it may still be aligned to the alignment that the HDD had because you started with a clone instead of the fresh install.

So, can you install AS SSD and post a screen shot of it? I want to see something that I don't know how to explain right now (Christmas wore me out lol). There's a part of this program's interface in the screenshot that will tell me if the SSD is properly aligned to 1024KB.

Here you go. I wish I would have had this installed with the other benchmarks beause I see now that a lot of others use it. I will post up again all new benches after I have re-cloned the original image back to the SSD.

ASSSDbenchmark.png
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PhillyOverclocker;11780707 
Here you go. I wish I would have had this installed with the other benchmarks beause I see now that a lot of others use it. I will post up again all new benches after I have re-cloned the original image back to the SSD.

ASSSDbenchmark.png

Isn't that a bit low for a sandforce drive? My well used Intel-V is ahead and its also on an AMD southbridge. Are you doing any sort of secure erase/wipe between the different OS's? I thought if you just format/quick format then the old data remains and the cells aren't cleared so the drive stays in a "used" state.
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Those look really slow scores for an SSD drive, scores on my WD mechanical drive are not far behind those
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Originally Posted by Darren9;11780811 
Isn't that a bit low for a sandforce drive? My well used Intel-V is ahead and its also on an AMD southbridge. Are you doing any sort of secure erase/wipe between the different OS's? I thought if you just format/quick format then the old data remains and the cells aren't cleared so the drive stays in a "used" state.

I would like to have done a Secure Erase but was unable to. I tried to use the PartedMagic.iso, but the PE was not able to even see the Mushkin drive at all. Can you suggest something else to do a true Secure Erase?
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WD Caviar green 250gb
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Hi Philly, I used Parted magic no prob, what about hot wiring the ssd with ACHI set in bios?
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