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pewpewlazer,

Looked at some pictures of your Antec P182. It does not seem to have a sidefan. One must remember that no matter how low GPU temp is, rest of the components on the card can get very, very hot. There is an enormous difference between having a sidefan giving som airflow directly over the card, when compared to having no sidefan.

If you hold your finger against a high end card, under full load, which have no sidefan one can feel the burning heat. If a sidefan is added the card itself will be much more cooler to the touch. Needless to say, when you where running your mem at 2300 (With no sidefan.. ?) It could have damaged your mem Voltage circuit because of the Load and burning heat.
Meh. Still not a reasonable explanation IMO. You shouldn't need a fan on the side of your case to prevent something from exploding.
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Meh. Still not a reasonable explanation IMO. You shouldn't need a fan on the side of your case to prevent something from exploding.
You don't need a side fan because the card runs stable at acceptable temperatures, at the stock settings. If somethings goes bad, then in that case its poor design or faulty parts. When you overclock, the card will run a lot hotter (obviously). It is much, much easier to fry a memory chip especially with the poor cooling they get by the stock coolers.

"turrican9" has it right on the money, a memory chip got fried. Memory ocing will boost performance, but not by much. Cooling makes the world of a difference and I would never run a high OC on a stock cooler.

Good luck with the RMA, hopefully it goes smoothly.
Edited by subz3ro - 12/29/10 at 12:17am
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You don't need a side fan because the card runs stable at acceptable temperatures, at the stock settings. If somethings goes bad, then in that case its poor design or faulty parts. When you overclock, the card will run a lot hotter (obviously). It is much, much easier to fry a memory chip especially with the poor cooling they get by the stock coolers.

turrican9 has it right on the money, a memory chip got fried. Memory ocing will boost performance, but not by much. Cooling makes the world of a difference and I would never run a high OC on a stock cooler.

Good luck with the RMA, hopefully it goes smoothly.
turrican9? not bad choice.
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Meh. Still not a reasonable explanation IMO. You shouldn't need a fan on the side of your case to prevent something from exploding.
You think that running memory at 500mhz faster than recommended is something that should be expected when designing the cooling?

How many people with stock cards are having their memory crap out on them?

Even you know that you fried your card, you are just complaining that you don't think it should have.
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I turned my GDDR5 speed to 2200 also after after reading this thread.


Concerning voltage, which is the max recommended value ?

I run stable at 920/1840/2200@1,15V, with fan speed at 100% (5000rpm).

What is max voltage value ? 1,1V should the max at stock cooling ? Can we go until 1,15V ?

Thanks.
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GRABibus,

I tried the EVGA 1.21 Volt bios. Tried up to 1.15v. Seems like I hit a barrier around 920 core. The card seemed to handle 1.15v but my custom fan profile got a little noisy. Didn't bother to try higher than this, cause I don't think it scaled well with the clocks. After a while I flashed back. My card is occt stable at 880/1760/2200+ 1.1v. And 900 + in games. However I keep it at 850/1700/2000 1.063v (have tested this occt stable at 1.038v. But like to keep it a little bit over min. tested volts).
    
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My point earlier on with regards to a sidefan, especially when overclocking is very simple but yet very effective. Even though your card has a nice GPU load temp under heavy load, your monitoring software is just showing the GPU temp, not the rest of the card (At least on the GTX 570).

As I've said, try to put your fingers against a heavy loaded card without a sidefan, and then try to add a sidefan or a fan blowing air over the card itself. It makes a world of difference. Common logic should point out that it cannot be very healthy if you almost burn your fingers, let's say on the backside of the card.

I have CM Storm Scout case. I have added a 120mm fan at the lowest fan place in my sidedoor. It blows cool air over my GTX 570. Even though it just runs 700 - 800rpm it makes a big difference.
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My point earlier on with regards to a sidefan, especially when overclocking is very simple but yet very effective. Even though your card has a nice GPU load temp under heavy load, your monitoring software is just showing the GPU temp, not the rest of the card (At least on the GTX 570).

As I've said, try to put your fingers against a heavy loaded card without a sidefan, and then try to add a sidefan or a fan blowing air over the card itself. It makes a world of difference. Common logic should point out that it cannot be very healthy if you almost burn your fingers, let's say on the backside of the card.

I have CM Storm Scout case. I have added a 120mm fan at the lowest fan place in my sidedoor. It blows cool air over my GTX 570. Even though it just runs 700 - 800rpm it makes a big difference.
Yeah. I would agree that adding a sidefan is good when overclocking, particularly when using custom cooling with ram sinks and VRM sinks (which indeed get awfully hot, I would not touch these even with proper cooling). I'm not so sure if its necessary for the stock cooler, which is a closed construction though, as in my experience I felt that adding a sidefan somehow broke the natural flow of air in my case. A dual edged blade in other words.

Just a question while we're at it; would you recommend adding a sidefan even at stock 570 speeds? I ordered a 570 yesterday, and I recently removed my sidefan as I'm using my pc for audio as well as games. The reason is obviously that I really dont want any extra noise. The problem I have now is that with all the cabinet fans turned down to a minimum I reach the exact tcase cpu level on stress testing (71c), as my true cooler seems to be out of fresh air no matter how many times I reseat. It has worked well with no issue through a year or so though (I also retreated from my previous oc to get lower temps).

Tip: dont build an oveclocked audio rig based on fan cooling, as its a hassle
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