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I'm looking for a GPU step up. I saw that 6950's can be converted into 6970's. Would an unlocked 6950 to 6970 be a significant step up from a Radeon 5850 that does 1000mhz/1100mhz?

Are there any particular 6950's that unlock, or is it all of them?
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Here you can find benchmarks of all 3 cards.
http://www.overclock.net/ati/897676-...x-benches.html

Expect about 20% boost, maybe a bit more
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I had an HIS 5850 reference running at stock speeds, with the rest of the hardware in my sig, and got a 6970 for Christmas...it's definitely a step up. Sadly, ATI Overdrive locks all clocks for me, but the Sapphire tool (bought a Sapphire this time) takes care of that issue.

For games like L4D2, I have it running on 1080p, everything full tilt, with 16x Aniso, and 8x AA, getting ~178 fps. It's about twice as fast as the 5850 was for me in that regard...using 4xAA in that game made the 5850 weep too much for some reason. 3dMark vantage went up from just 13961 for GPU score to ~19800. I think drivers need to mature to take advantage of the card.

It's a worthy upgrade imo.
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Originally Posted by UnexplodedCow View Post
I had an HIS 5850 reference running at stock speeds, with the rest of the hardware in my sig, and got a 6970 for Christmas...it's definitely a step up. Sadly, ATI Overdrive locks all clocks for me, but the Sapphire tool (bought a Sapphire this time) takes care of that issue.

For games like L4D2, I have it running on 1080p, everything full tilt, with 16x Aniso, and 8x AA, getting ~178 fps. It's about twice as fast as the 5850 was for me in that regard...using 4xAA in that game made the 5850 weep too much for some reason. 3dMark vantage went up from just 13961 for GPU score to ~19800. I think drivers need to mature to take advantage of the card.

It's a worthy upgrade imo.
That looks good, but if overclocked my hd5850 is as good (or better) as a hd5870. My gpu score is 19k in 3dmark vantage. So, if a 5850 can be fast as a 5870, and a 6950 can be fast as a 6970, than I don't think it is a good upgrade, unless you're planning to crossfire them.
6970 is just 12% than the 5870.
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Ah hell, at £220, I went for a 6950. It's the same price I paid for a Sapphire 5850 upon release.
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i upgraded my gigabyte 5850 to a sapphire 6950 and then unlocked it to 6970 , the performance is not comparable . 3dmark 11 with the 5850 i got 4700 points , 6950 unlocked i get 5600 points ..

stone giant benchmark with 5850 oc 950/1350 @ 1920x1080 , medium tess = 60fps avg
stone giant benchmark with 6950 unlocked 6970 oc 905/1440 @ 1920x1080 , medium tess = 82 fps

you will find 20+fps increase in most dx11 games / benches ...thats from my experience anyway i can conclude about 35% increase in speed .
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I'm looking for a GPU step up. I saw that 6950's can be converted into 6970's. Would an unlocked 6950 to 6970 be a significant step up from a Radeon 5850 that does 1000mhz/1100mhz?

Are there any particular 6950's that unlock, or is it all of them?
Sapphire 6950's unlock flawlessly with the sapphire 6970 bios .
    
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Be careful when unlocking though. The 6970 uses 6-Pin+8-Pin PCI-E power, whereas the 6950 only uses one 6-Pin. This means that at full load, it may not function correctly and could cause some damage.

Just wanted to throw that out there.
    
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Be careful when unlocking though. The 6970 uses 6-Pin+8-Pin PCI-E power, whereas the 6950 only uses one 6-Pin. This means that at full load, it may not function correctly and could cause some damage.

Just wanted to throw that out there.
Having too little power won't damage the card. Worst case scenario is that it artefacts/crashes. It's not like a car running on no oil.
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Be careful when unlocking though. The 6970 uses 6-Pin+8-Pin PCI-E power, whereas the 6950 only uses one 6-Pin. This means that at full load, it may not function correctly and could cause some damage.

Just wanted to throw that out there.

But if you have a powerful PSU, it wont matter.
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