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it is clean but after trying ketchup it just corrode my backside.
i am halfway lapping, it was much worse!


they say lapping decreases performance..
so how to get that away without lapping ?
Edited by runeazn - 12/28/10 at 3:06am
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http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost...0&postcount=15

Same principle applies to copper blocks. Just remember, the MOMENT you are done cleaning, keep the copper from being exposed to open air or it'll continue to oxidize. Also remember that oxidation doesn't affect performance, only appearance.

Edit; oh wow, you have a much bigger problem now.
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post #13 of 37
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i know that,
:/
so sticky a post don't get ketchup to touch the contact plate..
or there will be more people that will try the ketchup trick and mess up like me :/
it totally oxidized,

i put paper underneath it, put the plate on it, slammed ketchup on it.
seems like a lilililily bit got to it and this mess happend, totally green the paper and the contact plate was as uneven as a mountain :/
Edited by runeazn - 12/28/10 at 3:16am
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post #14 of 37
oh dude what a mess
Guess you can easily work on it and make it as before if not better.
The real problem on lapping a block like the HK 3.0 is that originally
the contact surface is concave. It's for that you can notice, watching
your photos, that you lapped only the external part, without touching
the middle of the surface.
Obviously for this reason you see that in the middle your CPU block is
still oxidized as before. Watercool also state that lapping will be a bad thing
because, with their block, concave surface will cool better than a perfectly
flat one. I sincerely don't know about this, what i know is that 2 perfectly
lapped surfaces will cool better than any other thing, so it strictly depends
on your CPU, and if you lapped it or not.
Anyway, a very good non-abrasive polish will do the job, remember to use
hydrophilic cotton, and you'll see your block shine again as before. Someone
says that polishing isn't a good thing, i don't think so, just make sure to clean
well the surface, with arctic clean stuffs or with isopropyl alcohol, before
applying the thermal compound, and put your thermal paste siringe into a cup
of very hot water right before using it, will help you to spread it better.

The job will probably take 1-1.5 hour, maybe more. If you see my avatar,
it took many, many ours.
Instead if you prefer to lap it (and i hope not, but you started yet!) guess
you have to be very careful since HK has a very thin contact surface, anyway
you could go with a 800 till you see that you're working on the middle and
right after that go with 1000 and finish it with 1500-2000 or more before
polishing it. If you're gonna do this i recommend you lap also your CPU if you
haven't done it yet.

Sorry for my english, hope your block will shine again!

PS: btw heatkiller surface is horrid when you buy it brand new, just saw this:
http://www.overclock.net/water-cooli...orly-made.html
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post #15 of 37
Please tell me you didn't lap the micro-channel side of the contact plate...

Ok. Ketchup definately works, but it's not as powerful as come Coca-Cola will be. Use Coca-Cola for the green stuff. Let the plate sit in a bath of Coca-Cola for about 5-10 minutes. It should come right clean.

Don't lap anything any more than you already have. From what I have experienced, lapping the HK 3.0 is ok, as long as you remove the plate from the base before trying to lap it. I saw a decrease in temps but it was only 1-2C at best if anything at all.

I have a 3.0 and I give it regular Coca-Cola baths about every 6 months, it still looks like new.
 
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Try some water wetter in the loop.
    
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I am not a idiot who laps the grooves

I want to lap the contact plate but not the cpu,
so should i buy some polish or lap it with my 2500-15000 grit lap kit?
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post #18 of 37
I'd say go for polish, or maybe try coca-cola (i don't know anything about it,
but i trust OCN people )
If you lap the HK surface, and you aren't gonna lap your CPU, then you'll prolly
get worse temps, since HK won't be concave anymore, almost this is what
watercool think about it. So go for polish, remember right kind of cotton,
and get a good movie so you won't get bored

PS: btw, use your kit to lap just the edges, maybe with 4000+, before polishing,
since from the photo i see you used something harder to start lapping.
Edited by Batou - 12/28/10 at 7:46am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by runeazn View Post
I am not a idiot who laps the grooves

I want to lap the contact plate but not the cpu,
so should i buy some polish or lap it with my 2500-15000 grit lap kit?
If you aren't lapping the CPU then DO NOT lap the contact plate at all.

Use come Coca-Cola.
 
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Originally Posted by Shrimpykins View Post
If you aren't lapping the CPU then DO NOT lap the contact plate at all.

Use come Coca-Cola.
i alrdy did, as you saw in the picture..
it was much worse..


this but in the early stages, i let the ketchup on it for 12 hours striaght :/
stupid me..
i have enuff cola

if i need to buy polish i would need to buy it :/

so cola is good right?
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