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It pains me to see infighting between 1366 and Sandybridge fans. Can't we all just get along, and agree that AMD sucks?
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It pains me to see infighting between 1366 and Sandybridge fans. Can't we all just get along, and agree that AMD sucks?
There wouldn't be any fighting if Intel was smart and incorporated Westmere into the current I7 1366 processors.

I'd be angry if i dished out all that money for Bloomfield when a 220 dollar 2500K and a 99 dollar P67 board put a hurting on my 930/X58 combo.
    
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Alright I need to ask a stupid question, Sandy Bridge in January will only have Dual-Channel ram as opposed to triple-channel ram with the i7 950,correct?

Does that mean the overall system will be slower due to it only having dual-channel memory capabilities?

I ask because It is either i7 950 or i7 2600k, I use my computer for gaming and HD video, sometimes doing some heavy cpu tasks every once in a blue moon.

My processor is weak now, I never overclocked it, Starcraft 2 is horrible on my CPU and the ram is even worse.

So for me, if I want a gaming CPU, what is the best course of action?

i7 970/ i7 980 worth it for the huge price increase from 950/SB?

Thanks.
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There wouldn't be any fighting if Intel was smart and incorporated Westmere into the current I7 1366 processors.

I'd be angry if i dished out all that money for Bloomfield when a 220 dollar 2500K and a 99 dollar P67 board put a hurting on my 930/X58 combo.
Yeah, Since I built my first rig 4 months ago the price of my card has dropped $150, 950's are the price of 930's, my RAM cost about 60% of what it did, and my CPU/Board is becoming 'last gen' stuff... in 4 months... The good news is that all the new releases in the world have absolutely no bearing on whether my setup can do what it needs to, which it obviously can.

I do, of course, know what you're saying though. By this time next year I figure I'll be piecing together an Ivy Bridge rig with my current stuff rolling into a pretty solid entertainment center or something.
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So for me, if I want a gaming CPU, what is the best course of action?

i7 970/ i7 980 worth it for the huge price increase from 950/SB?

Thanks.
In gaming, you will likely never see more than 4GB of RAM usage. Triple-channel 6GB is nice, but not absolutely necessary. The X58 platform definitely has some benefits (like triple-channel RAM and 16x/16x SLI configurations) but those may be overshadowed by Sandy Bridge's architecture and 32nm process.

Because LGA 1366 (i7 9XX) and LGA 1155 don't come to the same cost for motherboard, RAM and processor, it's hard to compare them. The X58 platform will be better if you plan on CPU/memory intensive tasks, or if you want a triple GPU setup. If you're just going to be gaming, Sandy Bridge looks to be a winner for the performance per dollar category.

And no, the 980X or 970 aren't worth it over a 2500K, 2600K, or i7 920-950 for gaming.
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Alright I need to ask a stupid question, Sandy Bridge in January will only have Dual-Channel ram as opposed to triple-channel ram with the i7 950,correct?

Does that mean the overall system will be slower due to it only having dual-channel memory capabilities?
Tri channel doesn't have that much of an advantage over dual channel anyway. I pulled these from the Maxxmem benchmark page.

I7 920



I5 760



The Tri advantage could be compensated with some very fast memory on the dual channel computer.
    
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Tri channel doesn't have that much of an advantage over dual channel anyway. I pulled these from the Maxxmem benchmark page.

I7 920



I5 760



The Tri advantage could be compensated with some very fast memory on the dual channel computer.
Your comparison seems very slow, try this one

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Tri channel doesn't have that much of an advantage over dual channel anyway. I pulled these from the Maxxmem benchmark page.


The Tri advantage could be compensated with some very fast memory on the dual channel computer.
The speeds are quite different on the RAM in those screenshots. For gaming it doesn't matter anyways, as I said.
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Here are some better benchmarks, by using dual-channel and triple-channel on an X58 motherboard to see the difference. Full article: http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/16..._it/index.html



Sandra has similar results. Adobe Premiere Elements barely favors triple channel. Crysis:



For gaming it barely matters. Which is why Sandy Bridge may be the best choice (provided it is cheaper than an LGA 1366 setup) for gaming for the next few months, whereas using your computer for more than entertainment will favor X58. Ivy Bridge may change things again.
Edited by KittensMewMew - 12/28/10 at 8:22am
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