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Does HIS or Sapphire have like, unique bonuses like double lifetime guarantee or a longer guarantee?
I don't know. But, I recommend shopping around to see what you can find.

My answer is "probably". Many people here who prefer AMD/ATi swear by Sapphire or HIS.
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I don't know. But, I recommend shopping around to see what you can find.

My answer is "probably". Many people here who prefer AMD/ATi swear by Sapphire or HIS.
Guess I'm going with the $99 HIS 5770 with MIR.
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Will do. Harder to overclock my cpu cause it's not black edition and I guess I'll overclock the NB since overclocking is what this forum is all about.

Is XFX reputable? HIS has the cheapest 5770 but not sure if it's high quality.
I would stay away from XFX - their warranty is great - if they let you use it, which apparently is more difficult than one would expect. The above comments are correct on ATI quality - I had an HIS 5770 and it was wonderful and overclocked very well (memory is the key with 5770, the core should hit 950 easily, the memory LOVES to be over 1350mhz - then again at your resolution, none of this matters haha)

The overclock on your CPU won't be very hard in all honesty.

You can probably simply change the bus speed from 200 to 220, then

- up your CPU voltage by .025 -.05,
- up your CPU-NB voltage to 1.35,
- up your NB voltage to 1.2
- up your Northbridge multiplier to x11
- adjust your RAM down accordingly

This should work perfectly, create very little extra heat and will give you a 3.3ghz CPU speed and a Northbridge speed of 2420mhz.

Your motherboard probably isn't the greatest overclocker, but at least has an 8pin CPU so you'll have enough power and the northbridge chipset has a heatsink to keep that cool. So long as you have some airflow in your case it'll be more than fine.

Know that the AM2+/3 platform LOVES a northbridge overclock with tight RAM timings - high RAM speed isn't as important as tight timings, along with the Northbridge at over 2400mhz you will notice everything load quicker, windows jump out at you ready loaded, everything happens at split second timing, and minimum frame rates just jump up in gaming. These are the noteworthy differences I and many others have found through multiple AMD system builds.

Good luck
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I would stay away from XFX - their warranty is great - if they let you use it, which apparently is more difficult than one would expect. The above comments are correct on ATI quality - I had an HIS 5770 and it was wonderful and overclocked very well (memory is the key with 5770, the core should hit 950 easily, the memory LOVES to be over 1350mhz - then again at your resolution, none of this matters haha)

The overclock on your CPU won't be very hard in all honesty.

You can probably simply change the bus speed from 200 to 220, then

- up your CPU voltage by .025 -.05,
- up your CPU-NB voltage to 1.35,
- up your NB voltage to 1.2
- up your Northbridge multiplier to x11
- adjust your RAM down accordingly

This should work perfectly, create very little extra heat and will give you a 3.3ghz CPU speed and a Northbridge speed of 2420mhz.

Your motherboard probably isn't the greatest overclocker, but at least has an 8pin CPU so you'll have enough power and the northbridge chipset has a heatsink to keep that cool. So long as you have some airflow in your case it'll be more than fine.

Know that the AM2+/3 platform LOVES a northbridge overclock with tight RAM timings - high RAM speed isn't as important as tight timings, along with the Northbridge at over 2400mhz you will notice everything load quicker, windows jump out at you ready loaded, everything happens at split second timing, and minimum frame rates just jump up in gaming. These are the noteworthy differences I and many others have found through multiple AMD system builds.

Good luck
This would be nice...if I knew how to do it >< I assume these settings are all changed in the bios? My cpu is 36 degrees C under 5% usage...
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All bios settings, and all of the naming conventions I used in my explanation should match perfectly with the language in your bios.

Are you using the stock CPU cooler?

What case do you have and how many fans inside?
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All bios settings, and all of the naming conventions I used in my explanation should match perfectly with the language in your bios.

Are you using the stock CPU cooler?

What case do you have and how many fans inside?
Antec 300 with only the back fan >:C
the one that shoots air out. -lol-
stock cooler too.
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haha, not the greatest cooling solution, to be sure.

You should take your overclock slowly:

Firstly turn your RAM and Northbridge multipliers back to the next lowest setting.

Up the bus speed (probably called CPU Freq in a gigabyte bios) by maybe 5 or 10 points at a time. Notice that your CPU speed is increasing, along with RAM/NB (which are underclocked for the moment)

Boot up into windows and run Hardware Monitor to check temps, and Prime95 SmallFFT for 10 mins or so. If all is well, increase CPU Freq/Bus speed again by 5 or 10 more.

When windows doesn't boot, or Prime95 fails, or you blue-screen, go back into the bios and increase the CPU voltage. Test again, and re-run Prime. (At this point it is worth knowing how to reset your CMOS - it can be as simple as unplugging your PSU for 10 seconds, or removing the circle battery on your motherboard for a minute, and is required when you input settings without the voltage required and you have to return to stock settings. Remember where in the process and with what settings you were at, so you can repeat them just with higher voltage)

Repeat.

Continue until your CPU temps are hitting 55 degrees or you hit 220 CPU Freq/Bus Speed (which is a safe max to aim for).

Once you can run Prime FFT for longer (up to an hour), and assuming your temps stay below 60degrees (they will climb slowly with time), you can then move onto your NB.

Using the same method, first increase your NB multiplier back to stock levels, but with your bus speed increase you will be slightly overclocked. Repeat the Prime95 method but run Blend test now instead of Small FFT.

Repeat the same method to test, upping the CPU-NB voltage (to a max of 1.35 for your CPU/MB) whenever Prime fails, aiming to get your Northbridge multiplier to 11x from 10x(stock). You may have to up the NB voltage (separate from the CPU-NB volts) by +.1, though this might not be necessary.

You should reach my previous estimates this way easily and safely, just watch your temps during Prime95 and make sure to stay below 62 degrees for safety.

Remember that Prime95 is 100% MAXIMUM stress testing - your system will never use that much in normal operation so if you hit the temperature maximum during testing, back off only slightly then know that normal use will find your max temp at least 3 degrees less than your Prime95 max.

After all of this you will need to deal with your RAM which is probably still slightly underclocked, but probably running with a bus speed too high to move back to the higher multiplier (which will cause a high overclock).

In this situation I find it easiest and best to simply tighten the timings instead. There are instructions on google for that, but basically you can tighten timings one at a time, running Prime95 blend to check stability, and keep tightening until you get to the best settings whilst leaving everything else at stock.

There's also a chance that you can achieve such a small overclock with no voltage increase required, so don't assume you have to at all, and if you can do such then congratulations and enjoy your faster-for-free system

Hopefully this helps
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did what you did in the previous post. cpu is at 50 degrees C at 3% load. going back to defaults and doing what you just said.
NB multiplier only goes to x10
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CPU temps are VERY high for what is essentially idle. My previous and smaller CPU cooler had my idle temps at around 30 degrees idle, 50+ load when slightly overclocked, but my Antec 300 has every fan except for the side panel installed and thus fairly good airflow.

Load temps are what really matter, but those are very high numbers still - it's possible you may have to forgo an overclock for now.

I would think about reseating your CPU cooler - even though it's stock, you might find you have too much thermal paste which is raising your temps. This will require you having new thermal paste to apply along with 90+% Isopropyl alcohol and cotton swabs to clean the surfaces.

Otherwise it's quite simply airflow (or lack thereof) in your case, and you are probably best waiting on the overclock until you install some more fans or get a new case. A new CPU cooler, even something small and cheap will allow for more overclock options, and should be something you do in the future.

Have you updated your Motherboard BIOS? This might unlock more options including a higher NB multi, and is always a good idea to do - can also help with RAM and other overclock stability.

Sorry I couldn't be more help mate.
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It's fine. Thanks for helping. I rep+ like twice for you. I upgraded from a 2.3 ghz sempron so I have high tolerance for lag, and there is no need for me to overclock.
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