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Lol so should I return this thing or not, based on the recording of my hifi setup on the first recording

I don't care if you like dubstep or that song, I don't even like that song, but dubstep is awesome to determine frequency response sound quality and distortion. Judge quality based on SPL to THD ratio and I'm betting you can tell its in a room because Incan with my speakers. But yeah. I want some input on the sound quality to frequency response if possible. I will dismiss your opinion if you don't have a hifi setup that can do 20 htz with over 90 db on your sub with at LEAST under 3% distortion or have headphones that are hifi.
I would make some more recordings and then see what you think. After all, I think your opinion is the one that matters the most since that's your mic.

Plus, it's not as easy to judge those recordings without actually being familiar with the way the room sounds in person.
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Originally Posted by TwoCables;11800934 
I would make some more recordings and then see what you think. After all, I think your opinion is the one that matters the most since that's your mic. smile.gif

Plus, it's not as easy to judge those recordings without actually being familiar with the way the room sounds in person.


Yeah I know but with third party opinions, it helps alot because I can definitely hear my own room acoustics in my own recording which pisses me off and I'm not familiar with quality mics so this is a very hard thing for mento judge because I don't know what im missing. I can HEAR almost every low not my sub is making on the recording but I can't tell if it's the room acoustics or slight distortion or both. I need help on that.
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Well, what would you want to use this mic for in the future?
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Precisely.

When the boys are in the studio, they don't care about the mics (I mean come on here... this is Metallica we're talking about). They let everyone else worry about that. But those who ARE worrying about it are choosing mics much better than the 57 and 58. Oh sure maybe they have an SM57 on the snare drum, but that's about it. But that doesn't mean the SM57 is the only thing recording his snare drum. Nope! You also have ridiculously high-end large diaphragm condensers over his drums.

Then there are a few large diaphragm condensers carefully positioned throughout the room. These are called "room mics" due to the way they're being used.

Ah but then what about all the vocals? Large diaphragms with pop filters (those round things with a black screen that kinda looks like pantyhose). Again, they might be using a room mic or two, depending on the result they want.

What about recording their amps? Probably a mix between high-end dynamics and small diaphragm condensers (or large diaphragm, depending on the desired results). Of course, there might be room mics involved again.

SM58s are best left for the stage. But wait a sec.... The Dave Matthews Band doesn't use the SM58 on stage. Instead, they use something entirely different! Dave is actually singing into some high end condenser mic that LOOKS like a dynamic mic. Why? Why not?

I could go on and on and on.


I confess that I cheated and I read everything you typed so far.


Let me confess: even I am jealous. So yeah, I think it's very worth having.


Meh, I love OCN, but I sincerely believe that the only way you're going to get a clear answer is if you compare for yourself. I mean, just look at what we've seen already.


You're welcome.

By the way, it's Hz, not htz. And if you want to say "20,000Hz", then you can also say "20kHz".

Anyway, I think that OCN is not the place to be asking this kind of stuff. I mean, come on: "let's use Metallica as an example". Sigh.

So I'm sorry to say it, but I really do think that you're the only one who can answer this for yourself. But that should actually be somewhat easy as long as you are making very careful comparisons - almost as though you're trying to help someone else figure it out.
So basically you are saying he should buy 4-5000 dollars worth of mics? I think you misunderstood my point. He isn't looking to push into OUR world. He is looking to mess around with things. I think his little mic will do ok until he figures out what he is doing.

I never mixed DMB so I wouldnt know what they use. I have worked with Journey, Blues travelers, Hootie and the blow fish, The Refreshments, and several other artists. All of which typically will not let an outside crew handle the audio except as fed from the monitor mix.
    
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Well, what would you want to use this mic for in the future?

Well I'd like to use it as a very good quality mic for all around use and small time mini studio like recording just to get started before I get really into it. I want something that can record my actual studio monitor playback so incan record my friend's dj mixes, in stereo. I want something that can record instruments well. Not exactly pro studio 19 mics on metallica drums quality but something that records better than the average downloaded iTunes song quality.
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So basically you are saying he should buy 4-5000 dollars worth of mics?
Nope. I didn't even try to say that.

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I think you misunderstood my point. He isn't looking to push into OUR world. He is looking to mess around with things. I think his little mic will do ok until he figures out what he is doing.
I know that. If you are replying to my post which you quoted, then you misunderstood it. However, I shouldn't have typed as much as I did.

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I never mixed DMB so I wouldnt know what they use. I have worked with Journey, Blues travelers, Hootie and the blow fish, The Refreshments, and several other artists. All of which typically will not let an outside crew handle the audio except as fed from the monitor mix.
I was only using DMB as an example to prove these guys that they need to keep their comments out of this thread such as trying to use Metallica as an example when they don't even know what mics they're actually using in the studio. All they did was make an assumption and basically say that every Metallica recording was made with at least a few SM57s and SM58s (meaning that at least a few were in the studio).

So I just wanted to show them that they have the wrong perception and it's nothing like they think it is.

But as far as Corey is concerned, I am trying to say that he should keep this mic and use it for anything he can think of. I know that I would personally enjoy playing with it.
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Originally Posted by TwoCables;11801121 
Nope. I didn't even try to say that.


I know that. If you are replying to my post which you quoted, then you misunderstood it. However, I shouldn't have typed as much as I did.


I was only using DMB as an example to prove these guys that they need to keep their comments out of this thread such as trying to use Metallica as an example when they don't even know what mics they're actually using in the studio. All they did was make an assumption and basically say that every Metallica recording was made with at least a few SM57s and SM58s.

So I just wanted to show them that they have the wrong perception and it's nothing like they think it is.

But as far as Corey is concerned, I am trying to say that he should keep this mic and use it for anything he can think of. I know that I would personally enjoy playing with it.

Lol thanks. That's more of a response I wanted. That's like someone asking if what they have are decent speakers and a bunch of *******s go in and demand that they compare to $60,000 jmlabs/focal when they are simply whaerfdale diamond 10.2's. Sure. The jmlabs are much better, are they both hifi? Yes. Would the z5500 (like an iTunes song compared to studio quality here) compare to either? No. Do I demand that everyone throw away their z5500'and get better things? Nope, but I'd reccoment something else before they spent the money on or to return it if they asked if they should.

That's kinda my point.
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Well I'd like to use it as a very good quality mic for all around use and small time mini studio like recording just to get started before I get really into it. I want something that can record my actual studio monitor playback so incan record my friend's dj mixes, in stereo. I want something that can record instruments well. Not exactly pro studio 19 mics on metallica drums quality but something that records better than the average downloaded iTunes song quality.
Y'know, it wouldn't surprise me if this mic would do the job just fine. Plus, it was free!

But if you save up, then you could do some research (by asking around on appropriate message boards and reading reviews, etc.) and end up with a system that is perfectly suited for what you want to do. I'm not saying that this isn't, but it is still just a $150 large diaphragm USB mic. I mean, compare that to something like this:

http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com...one?sku=500390

I didn't choose this carefully. I did it a bit randomly, but I still looked around for about 20 seconds.

To you Metallica fans: this mic is likely on par with what mic they use for James Hetfield's lead vocals in the studio.

Anyway Corey, I think you might get the best answers from some kind of message board where nearly every member is passionate about this stuff. I mean here on OCN, most people are gamers, Overclockers, computer enthusiasts, etc. Only a small handful really understand this stuff (like Spooked). I am but a hack.
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Nope. I didn't even try to say that.


I know that. If you are replying to my post which you quoted, then you misunderstood it. However, I shouldn't have typed as much as I did.


I was only using DMB as an example to prove these guys that they need to keep their comments out of this thread such as trying to use Metallica as an example when they don't even know what mics they're actually using in the studio. All they did was make an assumption and basically say that every Metallica recording was made with at least a few SM57s and SM58s.

So I just wanted to show them that they have the wrong perception and it's nothing like they think it is.

But as far as Corey is concerned, I am trying to say that he should keep this mic and use it for anything he can think of. I know that I would personally enjoy playing with it.
I agree...

I also agree that it will not be up to par with studio level recording over all.
I also agree that it will most likely make him happy until he decides to move on.

Didn't mean to step on your toes or anything. Sent you a PM to talk about it. I know both of us know too much about this kind of thing. And both of us know that this field is filled with opinions.

I honestly have no idea what a good usb mic is lol. I am used to having an arsenal of studio quality mics on hand for me.

When I started working with 32 leaves I got a bunch of Telefunkten mics for free. I honestly never worked with them before. Their record label had a deal with them for some reason. Pretty mics, but I used what I knew of course. As with most engineers we always use what we know.
    
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Lol thanks. That's more of a response I wanted. That's like someone asking if what they have are decent speakers and a bunch of *******s go in and demand that they compare to $60,000 jmlabs/focal when they are simply whaerfdale diamond 10.2's. Sure. The jmlabs are much better, are they both hifi? Yes. Would the z5500 (like an iTunes song compared to studio quality here) compare to either? No. Do I demand that everyone throw away their z5500'and get better things? Nope, but I'd reccoment something else before they spent the money on or to return it if they asked if they should.

That's kinda my point.
Yeah, it just makes me want to say "Look, let's chill out. He got this mic for free. So what do you think he's asking?"

It just makes my head hurt. lol
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i5-2500K @ 4.5GHz (1.368-1.384V fixed voltage) ASUS P8P67 EVO B3 (UEFI ver. 1850) GTX 780 ASUS DirectCU II (1228 / 6300, 1.180V) G.SKILL Ripjaws X 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1866MHz, CL9 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (C:\) 250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (D:\) 150 GB WD VelociRaptor Samsung SH-S243N 24x DVD Burner 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Samsung SH-S203N 20X DVD Burner Thermaltake Frio Win 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 Retail AOC G2460PG (24" 1920 x 1080 144Hz G-SYNC) 
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Filco Majestouch 104-key Cherry MX Blues w/NKRO Corsair HX650 (Bronze, ordered on 12-12-2009) CM 690 Intellimouse Optical (1.1A) 1000Hz polling rate 
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Basic, but premium round X-Fi Titanium HD Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 (with 16 AWG Monster Cable... 
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