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Will it work? The PSU have dual rails. 12V1=17A 12V2=18A. If it don't will HD 6870 or 6850 work instead?
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It would be perfectly fine, and even more than enough:

http://www.amd.com/us/products/deskt...verview.aspx#3

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post #3 of 202
If this is your PSU, I'd say no...not enough. Anything with "Max" in its name, should be thrown away immediately (except Enermax). That unit claims 420w on the 12v rail, and that is PEAK power. Which means its likely somewhere around a 200-300w unit at best.

I wouldn't run anything on that unit. If you have enough for a 6950, grab a GOOD PSU, and like a 6870 instead.
 
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post #4 of 202
Yes but remember the PSU is more like a 450w. So I wouldn't overclock that much on it.

*Edit* Good point pioneerisloud.
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If this is your PSU, I'd say no...not enough. Anything with "Max" in its name, should be thrown away immediately (except Enermax). That unit claims 420w on the 12v rail, and that is PEAK power. Which means its likely somewhere around a 200-300w unit at best.

I wouldn't run anything on that unit. If you have enough for a 6950, grab a GOOD PSU, and like a 6870 instead.
I don't have money to upgrade the psu sadly, but 6870 or 6850 should work right?
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post #6 of 202
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I don't have money to upgrade the psu sadly, but 6870 or 6850 should work right?
If you have enough money to get a $300 6950, you have MORE than enough to get a $225 6870 and a $75 PSU.
 
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post #7 of 202
Oh good grief. Your PSU is fine. AMD wouldn't say a 500W is all you'd need if it excluded your PSU. Do you think they would want to risk having customers complaining because they have a 600W Coolmax and it wasn't enough?

It's enough. Their site doesn't say "when we say 500W, we only mean high quality power supplies". Instead, they have to cover their butts and say 500W. This even means if you had a generic 500W, then it should still be enough. Again, AMD doesn't want to run the risk of having customers calling and saying "what the hell? I have a 500W power supply, but it's not enough! Your site says it's enough! WHY?!"

If it's not enough power, then I will eat my entire sig rig.
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Originally Posted by TwoCables View Post
Oh good grief. Your PSU is fine. AMD wouldn't say a 500W is all you'd need if it excluded your PSU. Do you think they would want to risk having customers complaining because they have a 600W Coolmax and it wasn't enough?

It's enough. Their site doesn't say "when we say 500W, we only mean high quality power supplies". Instead, they have to cover their butts and say 500W. This even means if you had a generic 500W, then it should still be enough. Again, AMD doesn't want to run the risk of having customers calling and saying "what the hell? I have a 500W power supply, but it's not enough! Your site says it's enough! WHY?!"

If it's not enough power, then I will eat my entire sig rig.
For once, I have to completely disagree with you.

Would you rather see him get a 6950, and then come back in 6 months complaining of a PSU fire? Or would you rather see him get a 6870 and a good PSU now, and that way he could upgrade to crossfire in the future if he wanted to?

I think the choice is obvious.

EDIT:
Although I would really like to see you eat your rig. Better post it up on youtube for me .
 
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post #9 of 202
Sigh. A PSU fire? For real?

Again; http://www.amd.com/us/products/deskt...verview.aspx#3

500W is recommended. His PSU is rated for 600W. It's not like he has a junker.

BUT NOW IF HE HAD A 450W-500W COOLMAX, THEN YEAH, I MIGHT WORRY A LITTLE BIT!

Anyway, I'd rather not be the person who causes him to spend more money than he's obviously looking to spend, right Akali?
Edited by TwoCables - 12/27/10 at 11:43pm
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Sigh. A PSU fire? For real?

Again; http://www.amd.com/us/products/deskt...verview.aspx#3

500W is recommended. His PSU is rated for 600W. It's not like he has a junker.

BUT NOW IF HE HAD A 450W-500W COOLMAX, THEN YEAH, I MIGHT WORRY A LITTLE BIT!

Anyway, I'd rather not be the person who causes him to spend more money than he's obviously looking to spend.
I'm not telling him to spend more than he's willing to. He's clearly got a roughly $300 budget if he's considering the 6950. This is why I'm recommending a 6870 and a good PSU. Would be the same price as the 6950 or cheaper.

And go look at the sticker on that CoolMax unit. It's a REALLY old design, considering it has a lot of power on the 5v and 3.3v rails. And its only rated for 420w PEAK on the 12v rails. The 6950 will easily pull 250w on its own, if not more after an overclock. If that PSU can only produce 250w continuous, it WILL pop.
 
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