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im sick of these cards that are made awesome by strapping on a huge heatsink with fans that exhaust into the case. I'll take the stock cooler over these anyday. it's bs. Ya, it makes your card a few degrees cooler, but it raises your case/cpu temps because of all the extra heat. its not worth it. all these cards are fail, imo.

show me a company that actually puts some thought into their design, rather than make it look 'pretty'. show me someone who looks into the heatsink itself and designs it with a cooler that will exhaust everything from the case. thats your winner. go ahead and buy into these half-ass cooler/heaters.

"cool your card and heat your rig at the same time"
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Yeah... These cards are directed at people who run tech benches and the like...
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Hey Alex, I'm having a few questions, since I'm thinking about getting that card, once it's available.
1. Since this'd be my first MSI card (always bought EVGA), what about warranty? Will this card come with lifetime warranty? Will overclocking and/or changing your cooler void the warranty?
2. When will this card approx. be available? Directly at launch (CES) or in a few weeks/months?
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post #74 of 129
Is it just me or does the 6970 PCB look more simplified?
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Running a twin frozr II GTX470 has no effect on my case temps. It is a VASTLY preferable design to the crappy reference heatsink. If you can afford to buy a beastly GPU, you can afford to house it properly (which actually can be done very economically). The reference turbine design needs to die. It's an inefficient, noisy solution. Or rather, they need to re-evaluate the fan used its its design. Increase their diameter, angle them more efficiently, reconsider the design of the fan itself, etc.

Sure, the turbine removes heat from your case, but when a non-reference radial design comes into play the graphics card's exhaust temperatures are lower, making it a non-issue.

Turbine heatsinks bring out my fangs
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post #76 of 129
Quote:
Originally Posted by xxbassplayerxx View Post
Hmmm...

Methinks MSI should sponsor OCN's Forum Warz team with a few of these 580's
Mehopes your thoughts come to pass, would be extremely cool.
    
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post #77 of 129
Those are some really great looking cards.
I just bought 2 MSI GTX 460 Hawks (Twin Frozr II) and even with a pretty big factory overclock they run really cool.
Good job, MSI! (Now Nvidia, fix the drivers.)
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The coolers look nice, I would rather be seeing waterblocks though!
 
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Originally Posted by Brutuz View Post
Just saying here, I'd much rather get one of the tweaked PCBs from these models than a reference model which is what I think he was meaning.
Hmmm... maybe.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Capwn View Post
I wish wish wish I could buy just the twin frozr II, or they made a universal one you could buy for any card ..... I would own at least 5.
Like I said, wait a few weeks. It's coming soon.

But seriously, it's not "universal" because of mounting location on PCB. The cooler itself does not have a universal mount, and the shroud is centered in a way so that once it is mounted, it is flush on the bracket side.

For example, GTX580/570/480/470/465 are all the same. GTX460 is different.


Quote:
Originally Posted by HSG502 View Post
I'd get one if it fit a 470 (do they have TF II 470s?)
Yes, TFII is available on GTX470.


Quote:
Originally Posted by xxbassplayerxx View Post
Hmmm...

Methinks MSI should sponsor OCN's Forum Warz team with a few of these 580's
Maybe.

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Originally Posted by RoW View Post
Hey Alex, I'm having a few questions, since I'm thinking about getting that card, once it's available.
1. Since this'd be my first MSI card (always bought EVGA), what about warranty? Will this card come with lifetime warranty? Will overclocking and/or changing your cooler void the warranty?
2. When will this card approx. be available? Directly at launch (CES) or in a few weeks/months?
1) Warranty is 3 years, transferable, no need for registration (although it does help streamline the process). We don't do lifetime warranties. Overclocking or modifying the cooler does not void it, however if you cause physical damage while modding the card, it does void the warranty.
2) I cannot say.
    
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You can't say because you don't know or because you aren't supposed to?
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