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OK so I'm pretty sure I'm not stable right now as I'm typing this because I'm having mouse lag beyond compare which on my old Intel rig meant bad OC.

I made a thread over in the mobo section but haven't been getting much help and I'm a bit short on time to mess around. The current point I'm at is laid out in this post:
http://www.overclock.net/amd-motherb...l#post11797550

Now I'm really trying to figure out somethings specifically but any general help would be great as well.
Specific things:
1) What the hell is LLC and is it good to have it on or off?
2) What is the highest settings recommend for VDDNB voltage and does it help with the OC?
3) Chipset over volt? Change it or not?
4) In HWmonitor I have really low core temps while TMPIN0 and TMPIN1 look like what the mobo reports for the CPU and motherboard temps. Which one do I believe? The core temps or the TMPIN0 temp for the CPU?
5)Does 1.5 volts for the core kill it faster than running stock? I heard that rumor but didn't believe it. This current build though I plan on having for at least 3 years.

Anything else you guys can come up with is appreciated. I'd like to have 3.75 stable but not looking to go beyond 1.5 to get it. I would only do that for 4GHz. Thanks in advance.
     
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1. load line calibration, it prevents the voltage drop that is normal when your cpu goes under load- leave it off until you fully understand it
2. dont know, dont touch it until you understand it
3. could be a number of things... sorry i dont know your mobo
4. follow core temps
5. the lower the voltage the longer a chip will last, but 1.5 is a small increase and shouldn't cause too much trouble, should definitely last 3 years
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What are you stable at? I have a current thread and I think I am stuck at 3.4Ghz on the same processor. If you are getting 3.75 I would say heck yea! It makes me crazy that your $80.00 Motherboard potentially oc's better better than my $160.00 last of the nforce line does, but eghh, I buy before I research and that's what keeps our economy going!
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The last stable settings (I only got to test for 1hr with p95 and this 3.75 passed at those lower settings for 30mins one night and then the next morning chrashed 20mins in) was 3.6GHz with both the NB and HT @ 2.4GHz. I set the Reference clock to 240; the cpu over voltage to 1.38125; the VDDNB to 1.25 and left everything else at auto. My RAM however was around 1400 as opposed to the 1333 it's supposed to be.

Now I'm at this as of right now:
Ref. clock: 250
cpu over volt:1.5
VDDNB:1.381 (it turns red at 1.4)
LLC:Auto (51%)
HT:1600 (comes to 2000 in OS)
Chipset overvolt:1.35
mem clock: Auto (1333 showing in windows)
Had to set the timing myself though because the bios was putting them way too low.
mem over volt: 1.51 (1.5 is what its rated for)

With LLC I've got an even larger voltage variation than before. Also, CPUZ shows a lower corevoltage then what is set in the BIOS with it on. Set to 1.5 and CPUZ shows 1.45-1.488

Might be an unrelated problem but the board takes a full 30seconds to move from POST to BIOS setup or booting a drive.

PS: Thanks for being snappier on the response time than over in the mobo section.
     
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My VDDNB turns red at 1.6
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Yeah I would stay away from that. What's pissing me off is that no one can tell me what the max for that specifically is. I want to know the max for the VDDNB not the "CPU-NB" or "NB".
     
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AthlonIIX4 640 3.62GHz (250x14.5) 2.5GHz NB Asus M4A785TD-M EVO MSI GTX275 (Stock 666) 8GBs of GSkill 1600 
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4GBs of Adata 1333 Kingston HyperX 3k 120GB WD Caviar Black 500GB Hitachi Deskstar 1TB 
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LG 8X BDR (WHL08S20) Cooler Master Hyper 212+ Kubuntu x64 Windows 7 x64 
OSMonitorPowerCase
Bodhi Linux x64 Acer G215H (1920x1080) Seasonic 520 HAF912 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
N450 1.8GHz AC and 1.66GHz batt ASUS proprietary for 1001P GMA3150 (can play bluray now!?) 1GB DDR2 
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160GB LGLHDLBDRE32X Bodhi Linux Fedora LXDE 
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Intel Core m3-6Y30 Intel HD515 8GB 1866DDR3L Micron M600 MTFDDAV256MBF M.2, 256 GB 
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Fanless Win10 Home x64 Kubuntu 16.04 (requires Linux kernel 4.5/4.6) 13.3 inch 16:9, 1920x1080 pixel, AU Optronics A... 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AthlonIIX4 640 3.62GHz (250x14.5) 2.5GHz NB Asus M4A785TD-M EVO MSI GTX275 (Stock 666) 8GBs of GSkill 1600 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
4GBs of Adata 1333 Kingston HyperX 3k 120GB WD Caviar Black 500GB Hitachi Deskstar 1TB 
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OSMonitorPowerCase
Bodhi Linux x64 Acer G215H (1920x1080) Seasonic 520 HAF912 
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N450 1.8GHz AC and 1.66GHz batt ASUS proprietary for 1001P GMA3150 (can play bluray now!?) 1GB DDR2 
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