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Hey, this is my first post on the forums! So thanks for viewing

I have just been a bit curious about some benchmarking scores I got on my new laptopp compared to my old desktop and whether the scores they have gotten on 3dmark06 are about right

New Laptop:
Pavillion dv7
I7 at 1.73ghz turbo boost to 2.9
ATI radeon HD 5650
8 GIG RAM
17 inch

3DMARK06: 7800

Old Desktop:
SLI 8800 GT's
Q6600 quad core
2 GIG RAM

3DMARK06: 11000


Looking at processor and components which one should be running the games at the highest frames, and are these scores appropriate for the two computers, I was thinking maybe the laptop would outperform the desktop now because of the CPU however the graphics card isnt as good. Opinions?
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Seems like the GPU in the laptop is slowing you down. Plus, what speed is the Q6600 at? 2x desktop 8800GT's should outperform a 5650 mobil.e
     
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The 5650 is not a high end laptop GPU. SLI 8800GT's are probably about as good as a GTX 260, which would kill that laptop ATI chip.
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Oh I see, I wasn't able to purchase a laptop with a higher GPU from stores in Australia. I was told it could run most games on high except for a few. It runs COD:WaW on max settings fine, aswell as some other games I tried. However it has issues running WoW on max settings :S
Is it possible to upgrade GPU in this model laptop?
Do the scores look reasonable considering thee specs of each
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Oh I see, I wasn't able to purchase a laptop with a higher GPU from stores in Australia. I was told it could run most games on high except for a few. It runs COD:WaW on max settings fine, aswell as some other games I tried. However it has issues running WoW on max settings :S
Is it possible to upgrade GPU in this model laptop?
Do the scores look reasonable considering thee specs of each
Scores look reasonable, and no you cannot upgrade the GPU. Very few models have upgradable MXM slots, and even then you need to find a cooler to support the size.

WoW should not be running flawlessly at max settings, high-medium probably, but definitely not ultra.
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Scores look reasonable, and no you cannot upgrade the GPU. Very few models have upgradable MXM slots, and even then you need to find a cooler to support the size.

WoW should not be running flawlessly at max settings, high-medium probably, but definitely not ultra.
Oh Okay then, well atleast the scores are reasonable. Why wouldn't wow run at max if COD will, I thought WoW was relatively low requirements as far as gaming is concerned. It doesnt even look that great on Ultra
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Oh I see, I wasn't able to purchase a laptop with a higher GPU from stores in Australia. I was told it could run most games on high except for a few. It runs COD:WaW on max settings fine, aswell as some other games I tried. However it has issues running WoW on max settings :S
Is it possible to upgrade GPU in this model laptop?
Do the scores look reasonable considering thee specs of each
The scores look fine, and it's not surprising that your desktop outperforms it; Laptop parts don't stand up well to desktops.

The CoD games haven't ever been visually taxing, so that's expected. WoW just runs terribly for what it is. A couple tips: shadows hit FPS very hard, so definitely keep that relatively low; open up the config.*** file in your /[WoW directory]/*** folder, and add the line SET gxApi "d3d11"; it enables DX11 with some performance enhancers; that should help your framerate.


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Oh Okay then, well atleast the scores are reasonable. Why wouldn't wow run at max if COD will, I thought WoW was relatively low requirements as far as gaming is concerned. It doesnt even look that great on Ultra
EDIT: To elaborate, Blizzard is using a 5+ year old engine, and just adding enhancements here and there. With how much content is on the screen at one point, it's just not efficient. That's why the game can still destroy high-end video cards.
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What speed was/is your desktop's CPU at? WoW is fairly CPU bound from what I can remember, as well as only dual threaded I think. It is possible that the lower clock speed of the i7 is causing WoW to perform worse, no matter if it has 4 or 8 threads, etc. Especially if you had your desktop cpu at 4Ghz+. I could be wrong, not sure if WoW has been changed/updated to take advantage of more threads now.
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Efeman: Oh okay, I see. thanks for the WoW framerate tips, I appreciate it and yeh I thought it might be that way, cause my desktop can run WoW and most games on high

Strat79: My CPU on my desktop was 2.4ghz on the 4 cores, and It ran most my games pretty well so I think it might be the lower clock and maybe partially the video card not running wOw on ultra in this case as you said, thanks
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What speed was/is your desktop's CPU at? WoW is fairly CPU bound from what I can remember, as well as only dual threaded I think. It is possible that the lower clock speed of the i7 is causing WoW to perform worse, no matter if it has 4 or 8 threads, etc. Especially if you had your desktop cpu at 4Ghz+. I could be wrong, not sure if WoW has been changed/updated to take advantage of more threads now.
This and the fact that laptop processors run at significantly less watts and don't have the same cache and clock speed as desktop processors. Comparing the specs side by side isn't accurate when you got a desktop with a dedicated video card thats not integrated into the motherboard, a heavy power supply that runs on a lot of power.
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