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Howdy everyone, I'm new to the site, but I was hoping for some advice.

I'm currently attempting to overclock my build, but having a heck of a time doing it more than one way.. let me give some background.

I'm running my 965 on a Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 with 16GB of G.Skill Ripjaws 1333 (4x4GB) ram, an XFX Radeon HD 5770, an Intel 80GB SSD for OS and a 1TB WD Caviar Black for storage, all powered by a Cooler Master 600W PSU, in an NZXT M59 case.

I've been running for the past month or so at 3.74GHz with no problems, usually idle between 42-44C. I achieved my overclock by bumping the CPU clock, FSB, whatever you want to call it, from 200 to 220. Everything else has stayed the same, multiplier, voltage, on auto.

However, I want to reach 3.8GHz, but I can't do it just by adjusting the clock setting. Whenever I try to change anything else, multiplier especially, the overclock fails, many times before I even reach the desktop. I've messed around with a few settings I've seen other people use with similar setups.. raising the Vcore to 1.45, 1.5, adjusting the multiplier to x19, the NB to 2600MHz, and a whole laundry list of other "small" tweaks in an attempt to reach the fabled 3.8 with a stock cooler.

Is it unreasonable to want 3.8 with a stock cooler? My stance is that my case moves enough air, and the ambient temperature is low enough that I should be able to do it. But so far, I haven't been able to get it to run stable for even 5 minutes at 3.8.

Can anyone help me out? Much appreciated.
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post #2 of 13
What are your temps at 3.8 when stressed? PhenomII likes the cold a lot.
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post #3 of 13
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Originally Posted by Ryhnn View Post
Is it unreasonable to want 3.8 with a stock cooler?
In a word, Yes, it is unreasonable.

You will need aftermarket cooling to reach 3.8 no matter how good your case cooling is. Seriously, with all the moen you poured into your system, spend the extra $30-$50 for a cheap aftermarket hsf. You should achieve 3.8 or better.

Also, I mean no offense by asking but are you new to overclocking? If so, please take the time to consult with this community and research the guides available here before you attempt anything too crazy.

And fyi, whenever you use the FSB to overclock (as opposed to multipliers only), you increase the instability of your entire system. FSB is the better way to overclock, but it is complicated and requires some know-how to stabilize.
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post #4 of 13
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Hoping you meant the 3.74, that's the highest I've been stable and able to stress successfully with prime95. When I do that, I hit 65C max, usually drops to around 63 once the fan finally catches up.
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post #5 of 13
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Originally Posted by Ryhnn View Post
Hoping you meant the 3.74, that's the highest I've been stable and able to stress successfully with prime95. When I do that, I hit 65C max, usually drops to around 63 once the fan finally catches up.
This chip likes no more than 55c in prime 95 if you want stability, 62c max under any conditions.
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In a word, Yes, it is unreasonable.

Also, I mean no offense by asking but are you new to overclocking? If so, please take the time to consult with this community and research the guides available here before you attempt anything too crazy.
None taken, but yes I'm fairly new to overclocking, this is the only machine I have any experience doing it with, and I've only messed with it in the past 3 months or so.

But as far as the cooling situation goes, I've been eyeing the Corsair H50 and H70's on Newegg, but shortly after I completed my system my economic situation took a sharp turn for the worst, so I haven't been able to pick up an aftermarket cooling solution, yet.
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post #7 of 13
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryhnn View Post
None taken, but yes I'm fairly new to overclocking, this is the only machine I have any experience doing it with, and I've only messed with it in the past 3 months or so.

But as far as the cooling situation goes, I've been eyeing the Corsair H50 and H70's on Newegg, but shortly after I completed my system my economic situation took a sharp turn for the worst, so I haven't been able to pick up an aftermarket cooling solution, yet.
If you planned on getting an h50 or h70.......DONT!

If you have money for that, then save an extra $20-$40 and get the rasa kit (cpu water cooling http://www.frozencpu.com/products/11...tem.html#blank). Worlds better for relatively little increase in cost!

But, if you are on a tight budget like me, get the Cooler Master Hyper 212+ or something similar. You can start a thread under the AMD cooling section (http://www.overclock.net/air-cooling/) to seek cooling advice within your budget.

Also, I again reiterate.... ask us questions before you go crazy overclocking. We can help you find your limit, don't push too far on your own or you could end up with some very expensive paperweights. Let us help you
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post #8 of 13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stonedzen View Post
If you planned on getting an h50 or h70.......DONT!

If you have money for that, then save an extra $20-$40 and get the rasa kit (cpu water cooling http://www.frozencpu.com/products/11...tem.html#blank). Worlds better for relatively little increase in cost!

But, if you are on a tight budget like me, get the Cooler Master Hyper 212+ or something similar. You can start a thread under the AMD cooling section (http://www.overclock.net/air-cooling/) to seek cooling advice within your budget.

Also, I again reiterate.... ask us questions before you go crazy overclocking. We can help you find your limit, don't push too far on your own or you could end up with some very expensive paperweights. Let us help you
I'll definitely have to check into the Cooler Master cooling solution, but as far as the overclocking goes, does it seem odd that my system fails almost every time I attempt to change the multiplier? It seems like more people prefer to adjust their multiplier, but yet I'm having no luck with it. That was my whole plan back when I bought the processor. Also, should I back off my overclock a bit, even though I've had no stability issues thus far?
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Does changing the multiplier cause a crash when your fsb is at stock speed? Or are you saying it crashes whenever you change it at your current (overclocked) fsb speed?
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post #10 of 13
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It crashes when the FSB is at stock. As soon as I save the settings in the BIOS and exit, that's when it crashes and goes back to the BIOS screen with an error message stating that the system failed to boot due to overclocking.
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