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Ok I have a feeling that intel is going to have a downfall because they are pushing integrated gpu in their cpu's way too much. SandyBridge is going to be 2%-5% faster than LGA 1156 and when IvyBridge comes out its going to have integrated gpu also so its going to be either a little better that LGA 1366 or maybe even slower...nobody needs integrated gpu's they all have them on a card or a motherboard. I can see this new tech for laptops yes but really intel you need to just stop. I have a almost 100% fealing that AMD is going to destroy intel with thier buldozer cpu's.

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Uhm... that was kind of bland
But if I understand you right, you do make a point. If most people aren't going to be using the iGPU with Sandy Bridge anyway, then why waste the silicon and put a GPU there in the first place?
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e-e Dude you have no idea what your talkign about at.... Go read about Sandy Bridge and UNDERSTAND what they are doing before saying anything. From what I can tell they are doing a newer interconnect (ringbus which is more efficient than what they have now) within the processor and moving more things on die to speed things up. Along with this they are adding more instruction sets and a few other features. On paper it seems much better, but then again "on paper".

I will give you that you make a valid point.
 
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I <3 intel but I feel they are going to epic fail on sadybridge and Ivybridge
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i havent done a great deal of research on sandybridge(because i like most have a gpu) but hows it different from the clarckdales that had intergrated gpu? what is the apparently HUGE differance? people are talking about it like it will change the face of computers for ever, lol. i too can only see a laptop market for this, and i cant see it pumping out crysis at 50 fps???
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Uhm... that was kind of bland
But if I understand you right, you do make a point. If most people aren't going to be using the iGPU with Sandy Bridge anyway, then why waste the silicon and put a GPU there in the first place?
Because its a starting point toward the future. When those IGP's actually perform decently in 5 years or so they will start to shut out the discrete graphics market. Eventually all it is going to be in one chip. Just, at the moment, they are trying this out. If you think about it though, it works beautifully for the OEM market with low-end sandy bridge processors.
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i havent done a great deal of research on sandybridge(because i like most have a gpu) but hows it different from the clarckdales that had intergrated gpu? what is the apparently HUGE differance? people are talking about it like it will change the face of computers for ever, lol. i too can only see a laptop market for this, and i cant see it pumping out crysis at 50 fps???
All sandybridge is doing is just putting a new interconnect between the iGPU and processor called a ringbus. This should help speed things up. On top of that they are putting the PCIe controller ondie as well from what I hear which will reduce latency.

It is almost like Intel is taking babysteps to a SoC.
 
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IIRC I read a review on sandy bridge IGP's and it can actually play MW2!

its also faster than a radeon 5450 discreet card as well btw....pretty serious horsepower for free
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Uhm... that was kind of bland
But if I understand you right, you do make a point. If most people aren't going to be using the iGPU with Sandy Bridge anyway, then why waste the silicon and put a GPU there in the first place?
So Intel can make more money off of chipsets. Notice how they didn't lower prices on chipsets even if a lot of the functionality has been moved to the CPU. Seriously, I think they're saving money by moving the iGPU to the CPU. Also, Sandy Bridge isn't just 2~5% faster compared to Lynnfield. Initial benchmarks show it as being 10% faster clock for clock and around 25% faster when comparing similarly priced parts.
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IIRC I read a review on sandy bridge IGP's and it can actually play MW2!

its also faster than a radeon 5450 discreet card as well btw....pretty serious horsepower for free
$50 HD4550 can play MW2 on medium-high settings at 70FPS.

Why should anyone buy a $300+ processor for that when they could just buy a Phenom II and an HD4550?

CPU hardly matters in most games.
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