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But im unsure how to get my os on it without having to wipe everything. How can I do this? I can't seem to find a straightforward guide. Also, I can't decide between these 2.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-108-_-Product

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820139415

which one should I get? thanks in advance.
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I would avoid both and get this one:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227550

It's the 60GB OCZ Vertex 2 for $119.99 shipped. It's way better than the older drives that you are currently looking at.

But regarding how to move into it without losing anything, I don't know. But it might be much better for the sake of performance to start fresh. That way you can make sure the SSD is properly aligned for the sake of performance, and you can make sure to install Windows with the motherboard's AHCI mode enabled.
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http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?...tate-Drive-MLC

Best and you get a coupon code for ten bucks off: BYEBYE2010
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I would avoid both and get this one:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227550

It's the 60GB OCZ Vertex 2 for $119.99 shipped. It's way better than the older drives that you are currently looking at.

But regarding how to move into it without losing anything, I don't know. But it might be much better for the sake of performance to start fresh. That way you can make sure the SSD is properly aligned for the sake of performance, and you can make sure to install Windows with the motherboard's AHCI mode enabled.
cool thanks for the suggestion. is it possible to install windows on the ssd, uninstall windows on my hdd, and still have all the data on my drive? im not really familiar with all this data transferring stuff.
Edited by kyle7412 - 12/29/10 at 3:20pm
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I performed a drive clone using Acronis 2011 from my 250GB Seagate and got crappy results with my 90GB Mushkin. (You first have to watch for alignment issues, which I had none, but it was still not fast enough.) Then I did a fresh install without performing a Secure Erase first and got similar benchmarks. So I decided to perform the Secure Erase and reinstall once again, and now this sucker flies.

I went from getting 115MB/s read and 114MB/s write with the drive clone, to 146MB/s read and 122MB/s write after performing a secure erase then a fresh install. Before moving anything my original OS was really fast, so it was not a problem with any programs or anything. Just a problem with the cloned image. I have done many drive clones before using other versions of Acronis and I have usually only seen a slight increase in performance (using regular disk drives) and surely never a 10%-15% drop.


Going by my only experience with SSDs, I would recommend against a drive clone. And although I have read it can be done without any degradation of performance, I have seen other instances where it has really hurt.
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cool thanks for the suggestion. is it possible to install windows on the ssd, uninstall windows on my hdd, and still have all the data on my drive? im not really familiar with all this data transferring stuff.
It's actually much simpler than that:
  1. Shut down
  2. When you connect the solid state drive, take this time to disconnect the hard drive
  3. Install Windows 7 to the solid state drive
  4. When finished, shut down
  5. Reconnect the hard drive
  6. Boot into the BIOS
  7. Make sure the boot order is good (that the SSD is first)
  8. Boot back into your new installation of Windows 7 (on the SSD)
  9. The HDD is now a storage drive, so now you can do whatever you want with the stuff on the HDD.

There is no such thing as uninstalling Windows. It's just there. But if you need to free up some space, then you can delete everything that makes up the Windows installation on your hard drive, such as the Windows folder, the Program Files folder, etc. But there's no actual need to get rid of it.

Now, the reason for leaving the HDD disconnected during the installation is to avoid getting a dual boot menu, and to avoid having the MBR placed on the HDD (which would be very irritating).
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You can format your drive and it would be like uninstalling Windows..and everything else on the drive with it.
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Formatting the drive will be a fresh start, and it will also enable you to optimise the drive for the small amount of space that it offers.

A OCZ Vertex 2 whould be my choice of SSD
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dont get either, and get a sandforce
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It's actually much simpler than that:
  1. Shut down
  2. When you connect the solid state drive, take this time to disconnect the hard drive
  3. Install Windows 7 to the solid state drive
  4. When finished, shut down
  5. Reconnect the hard drive
  6. Boot into the BIOS
  7. Make sure the boot order is good (that the SSD is first)
  8. Boot back into your new installation of Windows 7 (on the SSD)
  9. The HDD is now a storage drive, so now you can do whatever you want with the stuff on the HDD.

There is no such thing as uninstalling Windows. It's just there. But if you need to free up some space, then you can delete everything that makes up the Windows installation on your hard drive, such as the Windows folder, the Program Files folder, etc. But there's no actual need to get rid of it.

Now, the reason for leaving the HDD disconnected during the installation is to avoid getting a dual boot menu, and to avoid having the MBR placed on the HDD (which would be very irritating).
thank you very much for the help, I really think I will get one now. I can see why you have so much rep. +1 for you
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