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Ah yeah I see it.

One completely unrelated question that just came up as I was looking at the board.
I thought I'd be able to see clearly which way it goes, but now I realized I don't know which way the new heatsink/fan of the new CPU (Athlon 640) will go, as in which side is the locking pin on? On current, it's towards the PCI-e slot, in other videos it's the opposite direction, and the clips/hooks on the slot look identical. O_O
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I don't know what that is (I don't know AMD stuff at all ).
Locking pin, I'm guessing he means pin1. All cpu's have a pin1, it's generally marked with a little arrow and the socket is marked the same. Either way I believe new sockets only go one way anyways.
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post #42 of 91
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Ah ok, thanks mushroom.

Now that I've reverted back to clearing old HD, formatting it, and installing Win7 on that,

Just one last check, will it make a difference when I do the above?
post #43 of 91
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I've got the stuff, I'm ready to install now, and I just want one final one word confirmation, and I can begin.

It's fine to install Windows 7 later, not right after installing the mobo and cpu, and just keep using Vista for now, correct?
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Yeah you don't have to re-install anything just yet though you might have to call and ask MS to release the key if it's OEM. Of course if you have a retail vista than you don't need to worry.
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Okey dokey, I'm gonna go ahead with replacing the mobo and cpu now, and leave Windows clean install for later.
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Wait I just realized, do you understand that my new HD is half full already?
Everything I just looked up says if I install Win7 on the existing partition, it'll format the thing... -.-
I can't believe I forgot it would do that.

That's why xd_1771 was telling me to create a new partition on there, then I could move everything from the existing partition to the old one, gradually clearing it, then get rid of it all together?
Yes. But if it were me, then I would just boot into Vista and take everything off the new hard drive that I want to keep and put it in a safe place (like perhaps somewhere on the 250GB, which I understand is the Vista hard drive, or the "old" hard drive). That way it's simplified and you don't have to worry about the contents of the new drive one bit because there will be nothing on there - or perhaps nothing left that's important.

But if you can't do that, then just extend the partition during the installation as I showed you earlier, and then select that new partition and install Windows 7 to it.

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But I'm trying to set Win7 as my primary OS, not Vista.
If I installed from within Vista, that wouldn't work, right?
It would be the same end result. The only difference is that you're starting the installation from within Vista. You'll still have to either let it format the drive, or you'd need to extend the partition and then install Windows 7 to that new partition.

Or maybe you have to click New instead of Extend - I don't know. I've never done it.

But to be honest, I think you're making this way more complicated than it should be.

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Locking pin, I'm guessing he means pin1. All cpu's have a pin1, it's generally marked with a little arrow and the socket is marked the same. Either way I believe new sockets only go one way anyways.
But I think we are trying to find out about the orientation of the heatsink.

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I've got the stuff, I'm ready to install now, and I just want one final one word confirmation, and I can begin.

It's fine to install Windows 7 later, not right after installing the mobo and cpu, and just keep using Vista for now, correct?
Yes. Like I said before, there is absolutely nothing wrong with this. At the worst, Vista will ask you to reactivate it.

But to be honest, I don't see a reason to do this.

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Yeah you don't have to re-install anything just yet though you might have to call and ask MS to release the key if it's OEM. Of course if you have a retail vista than you don't need to worry.
It'll actually be easier than that. At the very worst, Vista will just ask him to reactivate. And then at the very worst, he'll have to call in order to activate which is still nothing. There's no need to ask Microsoft to release the key (I don't know what this means).

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Okey dokey, I'm gonna go ahead with replacing the mobo and cpu now, and leave Windows clean install for later.
That's not necessary, but hey.. you gotta do what you gotta do I guess.

But if it were my system, then I would do this:
  1. Move contents of the new drive to a safe place (such as somewhere on the Vista drive)
  2. When finished, Shut Down and unplug the Vista drive.
  3. Install Windows 7 on the new drive.
  4. When finished, Shut Down and plug the Vista drive back in.
  5. Go into the BIOS to ensure the boot order is the way I want it
  6. Once back in Windows 7, I'd do whatever I want in order to finish setting up my system so that I can finally move forward and get back to OCN or play some games.

Seriously, why make it any harder than it has to be?
Edited by TwoCables - 12/29/10 at 11:58pm
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post #47 of 91
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Oh, I think I failed to stress the fact that, the old HD with Vista is full already, and the new HD already has almost 400GB of videos/movies on it. So there is no easy way to install on the new drive pretty much, and I'm ok with that. I already backed up everything I absoultely want to keep, and I'm ready to format and clean install Win7, and that's not bad.

But I got the stuff 12 hours ago, got everything plugged in and ready, except for one cable, the POWER BUTTON cable, because of http://www.overclock.net/amd-motherb...tx-system.html
And I've been sitting here for the past 6 hours trying to come up with the best solution for that problem.

I was thinking the best think I could do, is test to see if the way I lined up the pins and holes works (I think it has a high chance of turning out to be the correct alignment, so does my dad), but I need to know if that would be safe.
Basically, without actual labels, right now I have two wires which I'm pretty sure are the Power/Ground wires, connected to the corresponding pins on the mobo, no wires touching the LED pins, and 5touching other speaker/Reset(don't even have a reset button :/) pins on the slot.
Meaning, all the right-hand pins are connected to something, except for the two on the very right. I linked to a very large reference photo first post.
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Oh, I think I failed to stress the fact that, the old HD with Vista is full already, and the new HD already has almost 400GB of videos/movies on it. So there is no easy way to install on the new drive pretty much, and I'm ok with that. I already backed up everything I absoultely want to keep, and I'm ready to format and clean install Win7, and that's not bad.

But I got the stuff 12 hours ago, got everything plugged in and ready, except for one cable, the POWER BUTTON cable, because of http://www.overclock.net/amd-motherb...tx-system.html
And I've been sitting here for the past 6 hours trying to come up with the best solution for that problem.

I was thinking the best think I could do, is test to see if the way I lined up the pins and holes works (I think it has a high chance of turning out to be the correct alignment, so does my dad), but I need to know if that would be safe.
Basically, without actual labels, right now I have two wires which I'm pretty sure are the Power/Ground wires, connected to the corresponding pins on the mobo, no wires touching the LED pins, and 5touching other speaker/Reset(don't even have a reset button :/) pins on the slot.
Meaning, all the right-hand pins are connected to something, except for the two on the very right. I linked to a very large reference photo first post.
Regarding installing Windows onto the new HDD, just do as I said before: when it asks you where you want to install Windows, enable "Drive options (advanced)" by clicking that blue text. Then I think you either have to click Extend or just New. To be safe, click Extend first and then see what the next prompt is.

So, this means that it should be extremely easy to install Windows 7 onto the new HDD into a new, separate partition.

Or, you can boot into Vista, move everything you care about off the old hard drive onto the new, and then install Windows 7 onto that old 250GB. If you did this, then I would recommend using the "Drive options (advanced)" options by selecting the drive, clicking Delete, then New, then Format. Then click Next after that. But this is only safe once you know there's nothing left on that old HDD that you care about (such as maybe important documents or something).

As for the pin alignment, I'll have to check that out a little bit later. But all I can say at this point is the manual for the motherboard should explain everything you need to know. But it's actually labeled right on the PCB; look very, very, very closely. If you have to use a magnifying glass, then do that. It's all labeled.
Edited by TwoCables - 12/30/10 at 1:49am
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post #49 of 91
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Oh dear- I was understanding it as "Whichever HD you install onto, either way you're going to end up formatting."
I thought... didn't I ask specifically that before, and I was told that I'm going to have to format the whole drive? :doh
And yes I backed up everything I care about that was on the old HD on the new HD, so basically I can choose either way to go, anytime I want now? And all this time I thought I was restricted...

But none of that matters, because right now I can't turn on my computer, in comfort and knowing it'll be safe and proper.
And well, the manual tells me what the motherboard's pin slot is configured as. Why would it help at all about the cable that specifically is attached to this specific case.

I just simply need to know, so I can either try right now or go to sleep and figure it out tomorrow, is it safe to try to turn on the computer with a hole-to-pin form that I think will work? Because I know sometimes reveresed positive-negative poles can cause BIG problems on LED light slots and such, but right now none of the LED pins are connected, so... ?

Could anyone give me a simple Yes or No it's not safe?
Edited by BPK - 12/30/10 at 2:00am
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Oh dear- I was understanding it as "Whichever HD you install onto, either way you're going to end up formatting."
I thought... didn't I ask specifically that before, and I was told that I'm going to have to format the whole drive? :doh
And yes I backed up everything I care about that was on the old HD on the new HD, so basically I can choose either way to go, anytime I want now? And all this time I thought I was restricted...

But none of that matters, because right now I can't turn on my computer, in comfort and knowing it'll be safe and proper.
And well, the manual tells me what the motherboard's pin slot is configured as. Why would it help at all about the cable that specifically is attached to this specific case.

I just simply need to know, so I can either try right now or go to sleep and figure it out tomorrow, is it safe to try to turn on the computer with a hole-to-pin form that I think will work? Because I know sometimes reveresed positive-negative poles can cause BIG problems on LED light slots and such, but right now none of the LED pins are connected, so... ?

Could anyone give me a simple Yes or No it's not safe?
Whoa. You weren't kidding when you said you're a huge worry-wart. I thought you were just kinda joking around.

I'm in the process of using Microsoft Paint to point out which pins are for which cable so that you will know without a shadow of a doubt where to plug the cables in for the case (such as the HDD activity LED, the power switch, reset switch, and power LED). But you can probably win the race: look very, very closely at the PCB: it's labeled. It tells you which pins are for what, so trust it (and trust me too). Now, one does say "speaker". This set of pins is for cases that come with a speaker for computer beeps. So, some cases have a cable for this and some don't. It's also possible to buy a separate little speaker for this header.

But regarding installing Windows 7: if you want to make a partition, then just click "Drive options (advanced)" and then click "Extend". This is what it will look like when you click "Drive options (advanced)":

http://www.blackviper.com/Articles/O.../image2_4.html

But like I said, I've never done this before, so I don't know if "Extend" is the correct button. So, click it and see what prompt comes up. It will prompt you somewhere with something. So just click it.
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