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oh
I have nothing against you or something,
but sure does that make a impact in the decision
Heh, well. I think I write pretty honest reviews. If a board sucks ass, I will say so. There are enough fake and mock reviews out there, which is why I try to stay honest.

I have gone through so many keyboards by now and the Leopold is definitely not my favorite out of my collection, but in terms of easily-available boards for the mass market its one of the best.

If you look look you will find issues with almost any of these keyboards. Some more, some less. If you want a perfect keyboard to satisfy you entirely, you will have to go with a custom board or lower your expectations. That is ultimately what I did. I still collect keyboards, but my daily drivers are there to stay.
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From what I've seen, I think it's save to say it is not much better to get a Ducky, nor is it much better to get a Leopold, nor is it much better to get a Filco. Duckies and Leopold are knock-offs from the Filcos and there seem to be only tiny differences from a user perspective. Some of the Ducky boards have some questionable cheap design elements, but you also pay a bit less. Note that most of the drama about differences is provided by Ducky and EK people (either directly or by using people who got free keyboards from them), gaming the forums. Don't let the social engineering get to you. You might want to add the Rosewill RK-9000 to your list if you don't want tenkeyless.
Do they have a brown version of the Rosewill? I mean I wouldn't mind another blue, but just curious. Interesting perspective regarding the "three" brands.

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It is not really rebranded, it was developed in cooperation. The Leopold/Archiss board was designed by an ex-employee of Diatec, who worked on the original Filco designs. This is why the Leopold board is also addressing some issues/wishes that came up about Filco boards. I mention most of those issues in my Leopold review.

As for build quality, not much to discuss there. The Leopold board beats any Ducky board currently on the market in terms of build quality and construction. Ducky has a lot of production issues (such as LED keycaps falling apart and lopsided plug and case...), Leopold has little obvious issues.

If I had to decide between Filco and Leopold, I would go for the Leopold.
Oh right, I read that review! Well written, but I couldn't view the pictures here at work I guess I'll stray away from Ducky for the time being as I want something comparable to a Filco.

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Originally Posted by fssbzz View Post
just wait for leopold.
will be carry by EK pretty soon.
save up those international shipping.
U cant get Filco from PChome anyway.
they don't ship FILCO internationally.
you can buy FILCO from ArmyGroup tho.
but Leopold = Filco and some extra feature make it better then filco.
Might follow what you recommend and wait it out lol...I haven't tried to place an order from PCHome, but that's too bad they won't ship international :\\ I'll check out ArmyGroup and see what I find.
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Sixty is a better judge of this since I don't have a Leopold. Main differences seem to be a detachable USB cable, LED keycaps and lasered keys. The detachable USB cable is an advantage, I don't think many people need that but it won't hurt anybody. I like the LED keycaps and lack of printing on the case from a visual point of view, but it makes the board less versatile for people who remap keys. I don't like to feel the print on the keycaps, so for me that's a disadvantage. Not sure about the ex-Filco guy, not the most objective of voices. In the end availability should make it an easy choice: The Leopold will be available, the Filcos are getting hard to get, so why make it difficult for yourself.
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There currently isn't a Rosewill mechanical with the Cherry MX Browns.
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Sixty is a better judge of this since I don't have a Leopold. Main differences seem to be a detachable USB cable, LED keycaps and lasered keys. The detachable USB cable is an advantage, I don't think many people need that but it won't hurt anybody. I like the LED keycaps and lack of printing on the case from a visual point of view, but it makes the board less versatile for people who remap keys. I don't like to feel the print on the keycaps, so for me that's a disadvantage. Not sure about the ex-Filco guy, not the most objective of voices. In the end availability should make it an easy choice: The Leopold will be available, the Filcos are getting hard to get, so why make it difficult for yourself.
Yeah, good summation of the features. I was aware of the USB cable and LED keycaps. I don't have a preference of the keycaps but you bring some points regarding it which I didn't think of.

You're right about availability, but I've always been a fan of staying with something you know vs it could be greener; which is why I still like to know my options and see if it's worth hunting down a Filco. I think bottom line is I should man up and get what is easier, especially with these kind of responses from others who have owned Ducky, Leopold, Filco, etc helped me lean more towards a Leopold.
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There currently isn't a Rosewill mechanical with the Cherry MX Browns.
Thought so...oh well. Still a good price for blues.
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Thought so...oh well. Still a good price for blues.
Plus, it's supposed to be just like the Filco Majestouch Tactile Click, but with a red plate inside that you can see in the right light.
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Plus, it's supposed to be just like the Filco Majestouch Tactile Click, but with a red plate inside that you can see in the right light.
Hmmm, not sure if I would dig the red plate. I'll have to find some macro pics of this
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Hmmm, not sure if I would dig the red plate. I'll have to find some macro pics of this
I've seen some good pics somewhere here on OCN, and I remember that it's certainly not obnoxious or distracting. It looks like it's just kinda... there. It appeared to have like an anodized finish or something, I couldn't quite tell.
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I'm not sure what to think of the detachable cable actually. I suppose its nice to have, but for me personally the benefit is small. I only have two keyboards with a mini-usb plug, and unplugging the keyboard to plug in something like a camera also makes little sense, when the keyboard is disconnected. I guess this is for people that carry their boards around campus or work.

The laser print on the Leopold is nice and of high contrast, but it does turn a bit darker after a few weeks of use. This might be related to my sweat. Few others seem to confirm that behavior with the Razer Black Widow, while others have no issues. I don't think its a matter of how often you wash your hands, but rather something in your sweat. Or maybe its not a chemical reaction at all and instead related to length of finger nails or the angle on which you hit the keys. Who knows.

I definitely do prefer laser over the pad printing that Filco uses.

I received my Filco Zero from webwit in May 2010, since then I have been using it for about 5-8 hours daily, up to 14 hours on work days. By now I have worn down most common letters:


See the E,D,C. Picture is a few weeks old by now. A is starting to fade too and D is almost entirely blank now.

On a modern $100 keyboard this should not happen after just about half a year.
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