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Originally Posted by Trevdog View Post
i have been looking at that Asus laptop but are they upgradable?
Laptops are pretty iffy.

CPU's generally are upgradable unless they are ULV models; those are usually soldered down.

HDD's, RAM, Mini-PCIE slot devices are generally upgradable. With HDD's and RAM, you are usually best off getting the lowest end and buying the upgrades off Newegg. Though it is best to research this, as sometimes Dell/Lenovo offer upgrades for less then what it would cost of Newegg.

GPU's are not upgradable for the most part.

Displays are kind of upgradable, but this is very conditional and might take some hacking.
    
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So even if i bought an alienware computer i couldnt upgrade the graphics down the road that kinda sucks
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Laptops are horrible little pieces of crap for gaming, personally I use a macbook air for work only, no games, but there are some okay choices, i guess.
?? My laptop can play most games (L4D2/Bad Company 2/Mass Effect 2 etc) on high settings @ 1920x1200. How are they crap for gaming?

There's a lot of laptops that are great for gaming, not sure how your experiences with gaming laptops went.
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post #14 of 22
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Laptops are horrible little pieces of crap for gaming, personally I use a macbook air for work only, no games, but there are some okay choices, i guess.

I would recomend, buying maybe I nice Asus gaming computer, maybe with a cheap dedicated GPU, scrap that and put in your own GPU.


you cant take a desktop places when you need to...



oh wait, I need to unplug my machine and lug this 35lb computer with me, it will only take about 5 minutes. Then you need to bring the monitor, keyboard, and mouse.. soooo...



?
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you cant take a desktop places when you need to...



oh wait, I need to unplug my machine and lug this 35lb computer with me, it will only take about 5 minutes. Then you need to bring the monitor, keyboard, and mouse.. soooo...



?
How bout an ITX rig?
    
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post #16 of 22
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How bout an ITX rig?

monitor, keyboard and mouse would still be much too cumbersome and annoying to anyone he is with.



A laptop is much more suitable choice.
post #17 of 22
http://www.xoticpc.com/

Sager laptops have upgradeable procs provided they use the same socket, GPU's provided they use the same MXM slot, build quality is amazing, and the usual HDD and ram are upgradeable as well. The proc and GPU are also surprisingly easy to upgrade, as removal of 1 back panel will give you direct access to them (no keyboard removal or having to take the whole thing apart).

Their cooling is amazing and you can purchase a unit for under $2k that will play close to anything you throw at it. gpu's to look for are the gtx 460m which when oc'd will perform better than a gts 450 (desktop) or the ATI Mobility Radeon 5870 which will perform along the lines of a 5770 (desktop). In most games ATI MR 5870 > GTX 460m.

My lappy is currently running a 460m and the only games I have trouble running at max settings @ 1080p are BFBC2 (which I run med/high), Crysis will still kill your system though.

With a lappy you will not need AA enabled as 1080p on a 15'' or 17'' screen more or less looks like 1080p on 24'' w/ 4x AA.

If you are worried about sager quality (I know its not a very well known name) take a look though this forum. Also worth a note that many boutique brands such as ibuypower, cyberpower, and older (before dell) alienware are re branded sager units.

I recommend staying away from Alienware as you will be paying a huge amount in alien tax for some pretty lights. IMO Buying alienware laptop is like buying an Alienware desktop, you pay more for something you could have built for less.

An Asus G73 is always a good buy, they are well built and have great cooling aswell. I would still go sager, as they are much easier to upgrade, are a better quality build and run much cooler.
Edited by Unacceptable - 12/29/10 at 9:14am
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post #18 of 22
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Originally Posted by Trevdog View Post
So even if i bought an alienware computer i couldnt upgrade the graphics down the road that kinda sucks
if you ask around to confirm, but i am pretty sure that alienware and most other boutique laptop manufactures use MXM's for their graphics cards, so in theory you should be able to upgrade the gpu later down the line, but I think the problem is finding the MXM's to buy.

Generally its a bad idea to upgrade laptops past hdd's and memory, because its pretty difficult.
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post #19 of 22
I have herd a lot of good things about sager and being able to upgrade them with the newer video cards if you want as well as more room for more HDD if you can have an external hdd... but for the best bang for you $$ Asus G72 (ref for about 700$ with a 260 gx plays almost anything flawless) then the G73 with the 5870 will smack anything in the fast and keep going ... but the best IMHO is the Dell M17X with the dual 5870 CFX kick the crap out of the 480 and about on par with a desktop 5870.... thaty woudl be what i do and get it form dell and get the 4-5 yr war on it and you are done !!! ... it breaks in 4 yrs when all the new stuff is out they will replce it ... they are VERY good with that .... VERY GOOD!!!

There have been some dudes on here selling the M17X with the CFX 5870 .. not sure if it is for sell any more though ... idk :X check??/


Edit: Always get the smallest ammount of Mem or Hdd so you can upgrade form newegg to a SSD and 8gb ram ... as you can get both well under 200$ taboot! well worth about 200$-300$ with 8-16gb ram and then a 64gb boot drive and a 500 gb storge drive .... nothigns wrong with that when you do it through dell u are looking at almost 500-600$ and more for the upgrade. just my .02$ on that though.
Edited by Jackeduphard - 12/29/10 at 9:13am
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