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Hmm... I see your point. I might do it for Music and Pictures... but maybe Documents I will leave on the ssd.

Btw I read that its best to leave 10-20% free space on the ssd for it to run optimumly is this true?

Not sure on that one.

I know that you need some space for your pagefile and hibernation file (if you enable hibernation).

Side note about hibernation and SSDs:
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After doing some research I think it's something like this:

60GB SSD = 40GB (used) 20GB (free)
4GB RAM = approx. 3GB hibernation file

If you hibernate 10 times per day (a lot):

(10) * 3GB = 30GB written per day (from just hibernating)

30GB written to a space of 20GB = 1.5 write cycles per day

MLC lifetime (theoretical lifetime in addition, wear-leveling algorythms may increase lifetime) = 10,000 write cycles

10,000 write cycles / 1.5 cycles per day (from just hibernation) = approx 6666 days

6666 days = 18 years until the 20GB of free space is worn out (again theoretically)

Now granted, we may write more data every day than 30GB but even if you triple the amount of data written every day, you're still looking at 6 year lifespan (theoretical).

I'm not worried. I'll probably have built a new machine by then.
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yeah and i dont even use hibernate just standby if its short or off completely as rebooting will be quick with an SSD!
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yeah and i dont even use hibernate just standby if its short or off completely as rebooting will be quick with an SSD!
True

Honestly though, once I enabled AHCI - my boot times stayed about the same as with a HDD. The quicker boot time of the SSD was eaten up by the extra time the AHCI takes to do its thing.
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then whats the point of AHCI?
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then whats the point of AHCI?
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The Advanced Host Controller Interface (AHCI) is a host controller interface defined by Intel which defines the operation of Serial ATA (SATA) host bus adapters in a non-implementation-specific manner. The specification describes a system memory structure for computer hardware vendors to exchange data between host system memory and attached storage devices. As of October 2010, the current version of the specification is v. 1.3. AHCI gives software developers and hardware designers a standard method for detecting, configuring, and programming SATA/AHCI adapters. AHCI is separate from the SATA 3Gb/s standard, although it exposes SATA's advanced capabilities (such as hot swapping and native command queuing) such that host systems can utilize them.
Its an industry standard - like SATA 3.0Gb/s

Just so happens that newer SSDs benefit (in terms of performance - not necessarily boot times) from using this interface over the standard SATA 3.0

(I guess lol)
Edited by Slider46 - 12/29/10 at 7:10am
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Hmm... I see your point. I might do it for Music and Pictures... but maybe Documents I will leave on the ssd.

Btw I read that its best to leave 10-20% free space on the ssd for it to run optimumly is this true?
That was for older solid state drives that didn't really have a decent amount of space for wear-leveling. But with today's drives (such as the Corsair Force), there's plenty of room for it, so there's no longer a need to be concerned about it.

So there's no longer nothing wrong with filling a drive up to even 100%. But now if you're using the drive for a very busy computer where it's getting tons of writes and rewrites every single day, then I would recommend trying to avoid exceeding 90 to 95% full in a situation like that just to be sure.

But at the same time, you'd likely replace the drive with a better one long before the reserved space for wear-leveling even exceeds just 75% full (that is, 75% full of the "hidden" space reserved for wear-leveling).

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then whats the point of AHCI?
Native Command Queuing and better TRIM support when using Intel's Rapid Storage Technology driver. Plus for me, Intel's RST driver made Windows start a little bit faster, and it also made browsing the files on my drives feel a little faster, snappier, or perhaps more responsive.

To be honest though, I don't understand what Slider46 is talking about because my board doesn't take more than 3-4 seconds to load the AHCI BIOS during the POST. It's not like I sit there going, "man, this is irritating. I never should have enabled AHCI". Maybe he just needs to upgrade to the latest BIOS.

So just enable it. It won't be a pain in the neck during the POST. It'll simply just be better all around, especially when using Intel's RST driver.
Edited by TwoCables - 12/29/10 at 11:32pm
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Yeah I think I will install that driver straight away should be installing today

Will I need to update my f60 to v2.0 even though it is brand new... Should it have v2.0 on it already?

Also what files and programs benefit from being on a SSD and on a HDD in raid 0. So far I think:

SSD for OS, programs, most used documents, Internet browser cache and most other windows and program cache / temp files to speed up loading.

HDD Raid0 for games, rarely used program installs, pictures, music, videos, rarely used documents and files.

Anything else I'm missing?
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The F80 I recently got came with 1.1 firmware. Both the Intel RST software and HD tune told me this.

I looked into putting the 2.0 firmware on, but decided just to leave it, I'm not having any problems and I'm a little afraid to brick it.
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If I enable ahci instead of raid my raid array won't boot any more
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To be honest though, I don't understand what Slider46 is talking about because my board doesn't take more than 3-4 seconds to load the AHCI BIOS during the POST. It's not like I sit there going, "man, this is irritating. I never should have enabled AHCI". Maybe he just needs to upgrade to the latest BIOS.
Its not really irritating - I've just noticed that it adds a few extra seconds to the total boot time and I assume that without AHCI enabled the boot time would be that much quicker. However, without AHCI, I think performance within the OS would be poorer.
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