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post #21 of 40
I think some of you are getting mixed up with what fan is doing what.

From the pictures the OP has posted, both the rear and the top panel fans were installed as exhausts. Remember, to determine whether it is intake or exhaust, always look to see where the frame of the fan is. The air always moves outwards from what ever side the frame is on. You can also tell by how the fan blades look.

He said that he turned the top fan round and made it "exhaust", when in actual fact it is now an intake.
Edited by Outcasst - 12/30/10 at 4:53pm
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Show us something else. I want load temps on the GPU/CPU. Run LINX and OCCT GPU
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post #23 of 40
Quote:
Originally Posted by Outcasst;11834916 
I think some of you are getting mixed up with what fan is doing what.

From the pictures the OP has posted, both the rear and the top panel fans were installed as exhausts. Remember, to determine whether it is intake or exhaust, always look to see where the frame of the fan is. The air always moves outwards from what ever side the frame is on. You can also tell by how the fan blades look.

He said that he turned the top fan round and made it "exhaust", when in actual fact it is now an intake.

I thought just this, but I guess I got beaten to it.

@ OP:

Don't go buying something that won't help, just because you don't know what's going on. Learn more about air cooling and how fans work and determine the cause before you go potentially wasting money.

Ambient temps are important. What ambient do you have in your room? Remember to specify whether it's Celsius or Fahrenheit.

Logically, it must be below 39C since your CPU can't be below ambient, but an accurate number would be good.
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post #24 of 40
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Okay guys
I've cleaned the cpu fans and added fresh thermal paste, as well as fixed up the cable management in the case a lot.
Quote:
Originally Posted by B!0HaZard;11835058 
I thought just this, but I guess I got beaten to it.

@ OP:

Don't go buying something that won't help, just because you don't know what's going on. Learn more about air cooling and how fans work and determine the cause before you go potentially wasting money.

Ambient temps are important. What ambient do you have in your room? Remember to specify whether it's Celsius or Fahrenheit.

Logically, it must be below 39C since your CPU can't be below ambient, but an accurate number would be good.

Okay an accurate measurement of my ambient room temperature is 21C. So are you saying that my system can become cooler with the stock fans provided?
Quote:
Originally Posted by SIMPSONATOR;11835047 
Show us something else. I want load temps on the GPU/CPU. Run LINX and OCCT GPU

I attempted to use this LINX program except I'm not getting any results :S can you elaborate on how to use this program?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Outcasst;11834916 
I think some of you are getting mixed up with what fan is doing what.

From the pictures the OP has posted, both the rear and the top panel fans were installed as exhausts. Remember, to determine whether it is intake or exhaust, always look to see where the frame of the fan is. The air always moves outwards from what ever side the frame is on. You can also tell by how the fan blades look.

He said that he turned the top fan round and made it "exhaust", when in actual fact it is now an intake.

OKAY so I fixed it AGAIN, sorry for all that, now it looks the exact same as in the picture and I tested all 3 fans with a feather and the top and rear are exhausts and the front is intake.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by maysam;11837927 
Okay guys
I've cleaned the cpu fans and added fresh thermal paste, as well as fixed up the cable management in the case a lot.



Okay an accurate measurement of my ambient room temperature is 21C. So are you saying that my system can become cooler with the stock fans provided?



I attempted to use this LINX program except I'm not getting any results :S can you elaborate on how to use this program?



OKAY so I fixed it AGAIN, sorry for all that, now it looks the exact same as in the picture and I tested all 3 fans with a feather and the top and rear are exhausts and the front is intake.
Download LinX, click the "all button before running it, and tell it to run 20 times. after about 5 cycles, check the CPU's temps at 100% load.
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post #26 of 40
I built my mother a pc in the same case. Its really got wonderful airflow potential so you are doing something wrong here. Can you fill out your system specs in your signature and take a photo of your case with the side open? Thanks.


As for whoever is claiming the internal ambient will always be significantly higher than external, thats nonsense. My sig rig internal temps are literally identical to the extenal. Fairly sure these components put out more heat than your average build too. It all depends on how much money/effort/long-term-hearing-damage-potential you want to invest in cooling.

If you are running hot components with stock cooling... just about any case WILL be hot however. especially a case like this one where they start you off with just 2-3 underpowered fans (forgot which version you got).
Edited by Zero4549 - 12/31/10 at 12:17am
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post #27 of 40
Quote:
Originally Posted by maysam;11837927 
Okay an accurate measurement of my ambient room temperature is 21C. So are you saying that my system can become cooler with the stock fans provided?

Not necessarily, I'm just saying that you shouldn't buy something and regret it. I've done some stupid crap while trying to fix my PC...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zero4549;11839414 
I built my mother a pc in the same case. Its really got wonderful airflow potential so you are doing something wrong here. Can you fill out your system specs in your signature and take a photo of your case with the side open? Thanks.


As for whoever is claiming the internal ambient will always be significantly higher than external, thats nonsense. My sig rig internal temps are literally identical to the extenal. Fairly sure these components put out more heat than your average build too. It all depends on how much money/effort/long-term-hearing-damage-potential you want to invest in cooling.

If you are running hot components with stock cooling... just about any case WILL be hot however. especially a case like this one where they start you off with just 2-3 underpowered fans (forgot which version you got).


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Since yer only using two hard drives, put them in the top two bays and remove the bays under them. They are detachable and held in by tiny black screws (be careful the paint on them is soft and you can strip it easy). This will allow far better airflow from that large intake fan up front.

It also seems as though your optical drives are not in the upper most bays. It doesnt matter a whole lot but you really ought to. It'll move the mess of cables coming off it more out of the way.

Also do i see a floppy ribbon? Do you have any round floppy cables you could use instead? If not, does it have enough extra length that you could manually twist it into a round shape?

Remove that "extra" expansion slot cover. It will help vent the hot air around that gpu of yours. You know the one on the side doing nothing. Same goes for the one directly under the gpu (or all of them if you want... beware dust).

Try cranking up the cpu fan to max in the bios if you havnt done so already. those stock intel coolers are crap and if you are letting heat just sit there its going to bring up the temps of your motherboard as well... no good for anything. It wont really lower your ambient air temps much if any with your current airflow but if you were to invest in better/more fans it might.

Which brings me to the part where i suggest better and/or more fans. The ones that come with that thing are quite simply crap. I ripped them all out as soon as i got the case and replaced them with nocturas and enermax batwing style fans (was in a hurry, microcenter ran out of nocturas... lol).

If you are instrested in new fans.... well let me know and ill get into more detail.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zero4549;11849531 
Since yer only using two hard drives, put them in the top two bays and remove the bays under them. They are detachable and held in by tiny black screws (be careful the paint on them is soft and you can strip it easy). This will allow far better airflow from that large intake fan up front.

It also seems as though your optical drives are not in the upper most bays. It doesnt matter a whole lot but you really ought to. It'll move the mess of cables coming off it more out of the way.

Also do i see a floppy ribbon? Do you have any round floppy cables you could use instead? If not, does it have enough extra length that you could manually twist it into a round shape?

Remove that "extra" expansion slot cover. It will help vent the hot air around that gpu of yours. You know the one on the side doing nothing. Same goes for the one directly under the gpu (or all of them if you want... beware dust).

Try cranking up the cpu fan to max in the bios if you havnt done so already. those stock intel coolers are crap and if you are letting heat just sit there its going to bring up the temps of your motherboard as well... no good for anything. It wont really lower your ambient air temps much if any with your current airflow but if you were to invest in better/more fans it might.

Which brings me to the part where i suggest better and/or more fans. The ones that come with that thing are quite simply crap. I ripped them all out as soon as i got the case and replaced them with nocturas and enermax batwing style fans (was in a hurry, microcenter ran out of nocturas... lol).

If you are instrested in new fans.... well let me know and ill get into more detail.

Thanks for the detailed reply.
I checked the optical drives and they are in the highest position possible,
anything higher is not possible because there are no more slots in the front above.

Umm I can try to twist the ribbon into a smaller sized cable.
Its a really old optical drive that I haven't got around to replacing ( Who use's CD's these days )

If you mean removing the protectors on the case (5 of them) under the GPU I could try that aswell,
I don't mind dust as I have the special vacuum that I use to clean my computer.

And yeah, I was planning on filling up the case with more fans because I got space for 4 more fans.
Could you suggest me which ones to fill where from the following site (This is where I get my computer parts):
http://www.canadacomputers.com/index.php?cPath=8_130

Again, thanks a lot
My system
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
[Intel] E7400 @Stock [Intel] DG31PR [EVGA] GTX 460 (1GB Ed.) 4 GB 
Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
[Seagate] 1TB 7200RPM |[WD] 350GB 7200 RPM Windows 7 Ultimate x64 [Philips] 244E 24" 1920x1080 [Ultra]550W LSP 
CaseMouseMouse Pad
[CM] 690 II Adv Logitech G5 Rocketfish 
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My system
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
[Intel] E7400 @Stock [Intel] DG31PR [EVGA] GTX 460 (1GB Ed.) 4 GB 
Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
[Seagate] 1TB 7200RPM |[WD] 350GB 7200 RPM Windows 7 Ultimate x64 [Philips] 244E 24" 1920x1080 [Ultra]550W LSP 
CaseMouseMouse Pad
[CM] 690 II Adv Logitech G5 Rocketfish 
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