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post #11 of 20
Quote:
Originally Posted by xd_1771 View Post
I'm going to be honest with you... some of the choices here are a bit scary.
-125W processor on an unheatsinked 4+1 power phase board... dangerous
-Heatsink choice, not really the best nowadays... but it does at least blow onto the mosfets.
-Memory choice.... with 3 DIMMs you are not running proper dual channel and as a result there is a large chunk of performance lost; removing one of the DIMMs for proper dual channel will probably give you a big, noticeable increase in performance and you probably won't max out 4GB of RAM anyway.
-Power supply looks worse than mediocre. With a 125W processor and a higher-end video card you could be looking at some serious problems in the future.
hey, it's a first build, you learn from your mistakes :]
post #12 of 20
This is what you should've gotten.

$50 less with much better cpu, gpu, psu, hd, etc...

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/Pu...umber=21873868
post #13 of 20
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Hmm Actually to be honest I am kinda thinking of Getting a Athlon II X4. Compared to a Phenom X4, how much better would a Athlon II X4 do performance wise ? I know it has a lower cache than the Phenom but I would like to know anyway
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post #14 of 20
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Originally Posted by xd_1771 View Post
I'm going to be honest with you... some of the choices here are a bit scary.
-125W processor on an unheatsinked 4+1 power phase board... dangerous
-Heatsink choice, not really the best nowadays... but it does at least blow onto the mosfets.
-Memory choice.... with 3 DIMMs you are not running proper dual channel and as a result there is a large chunk of performance lost; removing one of the DIMMs for proper dual channel will probably give you a big, noticeable increase in performance and you probably won't max out 4GB of RAM anyway.
-Power supply looks worse than mediocre. With a 125W processor and a higher-end video card you could be looking at some serious problems in the future.
How about a Quad Channel
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post #15 of 20
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Originally Posted by Morizuno View Post
ULTRA is like the Rosewill of Tiger Direct, except the reasonable products.

That LSP psu probably can't supply 550w's os power and will most likely EXPLODE under load.



Anyways, I've worked at compusa and it really sucks. Prices are a lot more than newegg if you start adding things together and my old co-workers / employees are pretty dumb when it comes to choosing parts.


I think with that budget, you could've gotten a lot better parts. But, since this was your first build, you'll make better choices the next time around.

I remember my first build, it was total crap, but I made wiser choices the next time around.

Some things which I would change would be the mobo, as it uses DDR2 RAM and DDR3 is not only cheaper, but future proof as you can reuse it in other builds. Another thing would be the CPU. That's a Gen 1 phenom, which runs hot and pretty bad. An athlon II x3 would be a lot cooler and powerful. Lastly would be that ultra psu as I'm just worried if it'll explode under load.


Buying from the "for sale" section and newegg could save you mucho $$$



Have fun with your first build, it's actually pretty good for games depending on what games that is and probably looks awesome to non-techy people
Well I honestly don't play the new demanding games that much. I stick with MW2, Pro Evolution Soccer 2011, Test Drive Unlimited (Most Likely am gonna get the 2nd one), I do some flying in FSX and Lock On, Counter Strike Source, and my favorite, Battlefield 1942 and Vietnam Thanks anyway though, Even though you guys consider some parts as junk products, I did my best to try make a cheap budget gaming computer for a good price, I mean after all, its a Budget Gamer Computer, or else id be going for SLI or Crossfire
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post #16 of 20
The PhenomII x4 is a little better due to the cache. So a x4 would have to be clocked a little higher to perform the same as a PII x4
post #17 of 20
There is no such thing as quad channel... yet. AM3 only supports single and (preferably) dual channel.
post #18 of 20
Looks good to me man! I order the parts for my first build last wednesday, expecting them some time next week, really looking forward to it!

Goodluck with your next build.
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post #19 of 20
Why are people throwing down Ultra like its products are all crap.

Last I remember the Ultra x3 PSU's were pretty darn good.

Review 1

Review 2

I dont feel like linking any more, but hopefully you get the point. Dont generalize manufactures.
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post #20 of 20
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Originally Posted by cbrazeau1115 View Post
Why are people throwing down Ultra like its products are all crap.

Last I remember the Ultra x3 PSU's were pretty darn good.

Review 1

Review 2

I dont feel like linking any more, but hopefully you get the point. Dont generalize manufactures.
I know!!!!! According to Google, My Power Supply Has 1,143 people that gave it a perfect 5 star. That's just common sense that this is a good Power Supply that would do well and have all I need for a Budget Gamer Computer. And besides idk why people rate because of there names, in the end its all the same technology. I'm pretty sure OCZ, Corsair, Cooler Master have bad products as well as people "say" that Ultra is a bad product.
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CoolingOSMonitorMonitor
Corsair H60 Windows Server 2008 R2 Enterprise ASUS VS228H-P ASUS VS228H-P 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
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