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Originally Posted by The Network View Post
20x? That's AMD talk, let intel build it and it'll have 2000 threads and be 600x faster.
And be 1200xx more expensive.
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Originally Posted by Enfluenza View Post
as much as i detest intel you are wrong! Core ix is by no means 'obsolete'!
Core i3/i5/i7 is entirely obsolete - they have been out for more than a year - it's time for Intel to move on and come out with something new and relevant.

If Sandy Bridge was actually any good, Intel would have just scrapped Core iwhatever - and finally make the move to Core i9 and i11, as a minimum.


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if you say that then AMD's phenom II CPUs are obsolete too. K10.5 is basically the K10 arch on roids.
They are, Bulldozer is being prepped.

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and clock speeds are irelevent. back in the day one of intel's Penticrap 4 was clocked at 3.6Ghz, while AMD's Athlon 64s were clocked at 2.6Ghz (iirc) and it still raped it. Athlons were more powerful clock for clock its ALL ABOUT THE ARCH!
Clock speed is still very important. If you have software that required 3.0GHz - then it required 3GHz. Most software can not handle or take advantage of multiple cores - so you still need raw CPU speed to do the job.

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but i do agree that GMA is a load of crap. its the whole reason i will only accept a AMD vision based laptop.
And Intel gets away with cramming GMA down people's throats. Of course, poor performance gets blamed on other things, like Windows or hard drives or memory - when really, the performance hit comes from poor graphics capability coupled with the robbing of valuable memory from the system.

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even core 2 isnt obsolete imo. the high end C2Qs are still powerful even tho it only supports DDR2
I would call C2Q "powerful" - it's adequate for basic tasks, but lags like crazy if one wants to use stuff like Office.
post #53 of 84
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Originally Posted by The Network View Post
20x? That's AMD talk, let intel build it and it'll have 2000 threads and be 600x faster.
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And be 1200xx more expensive.
tru dat
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I was being highly sarcastic. I am in the process of editing approximately ~500 hours of home video and am an avid folder, I completely understand the uses for something this over the top. I find it funny that alot on here seem to think gaming is the top thing people do with computers, when it not even close, or probably even in the top 10. To be fair though, neither is video editing or folding or any number of other tasks that would require this kind of processing power. That doesn't mean that there is no uses though, their are plenty and people could use a properly made 1,000 core CPU.
like ppl in the stock market and CGI movie developers? i think so.


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Core i3/i5/i7 is entirely obsolete - they have been out for more than a year - it's time for Intel to move on and come out with something new and relevant.
just because something has been out for a year doesnt mean its obsolete.
DDR3 has been out for years now. are you saying that its obsolete? deoderant has been around for DECADES does that mean its obsolete too?
and becides if intel's i7 is the flagship right now and they dont have anything else out, how is it obsolete? btw lets look at the definition of obsolete:

obsolete
- not used any more: no longer in use
- out-of-date: superseded by something newer, though possibly still in use
there is nothing newer than core i7 yet (exept SB), and i3/i5/i7 is still in use. most of this forum uses i7s and i5s!
by definition core i7 IS NOT OBSOLETE
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If Sandy Bridge was actually any good, Intel would have just scrapped Core iwhatever - and finally make the move to Core i9 and i11, as a minimum.
i9 and i11 would be anoying for a naming scheme. the ix scheme is just to group it in sections of performance
i3=mainstream
i5=mid performance
i7=high end market
i9 is logical for UBER L33T EXTREME RAPZ0R PERFORMANCE tho. like bulldozer FX
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Clock speed is still very important. If you have software that required 3.0GHz - then it required 3GHz. Most software can not handle or take advantage of multiple cores - so you still need raw CPU speed to do the job.
Athlon 64s were still better.
but there may be some truth to that. my mom's Opty 170 dual core rig is clocked at 2Ghz and it cant play many games optimally even with a HD4670/8800GT
but its clocked at 2Ghz. that explains it. and i know this chip is capable of 2.8Ghz
damn it i HATE OEM mobos.
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And Intel gets away with cramming GMA down people's throats. Of course, poor performance gets blamed on other things, like Windows or hard drives or memory - when really, the performance hit comes from poor graphics capability coupled with the robbing of valuable memory from the system.
because people are STUPID IGNORANT!
they dont know that GMA is a heap of ****!
i tell every1 to stay away from intel lappys with GMA. but they say 'its HD so that means its good!'
intel's propaganda is corrupting our system! it has brainwashed ppl more than apple brainwashes their customers.


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I would call C2Q "powerful" - it's adequate for basic tasks, but lags like crazy if one wants to use stuff like Office.

core 2 quad? lagging? in MICROSOFT OFFICE?
dude, my athlon 64 3500+ doesn't lag in office. why would a quad core lag?
2003 didn't lag. 2007 lagged a little with the 3500+, but 2010 DOES NOT LAG thanks to GPU optimization.

its still hard to believe a C2Q would lag in a BASIC app like office.
    
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post #54 of 84
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Intel has already the technology and knowledge to build these chips.

The thing is that they are playing a strategy in the market,and almost 99% of companies retain for long periods the latest bleeding edge tech,for the future.

For example Intel,has alerady a new tech that leaves this 1000 core processor in the dust,replacing electronic signals with Lightbeams.

http://www.intel.com/pressroom/archi...727comp_sm.htm

Maybe if you go the latest facilities of Intel you will se how well advanced they are right now.

Thats purely marketing, they are just as bad as apple. They have all the technology now but they will release it after 5 years and say its uber new.. just lik the new ipod/ iphone OMG it has a bettter camera and a different shape.
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HMm liking this, Scientists from glasgow uni BEAT intel to the 1000 core chip. Thats how bad it is now adays
Intel couldn't give two ****s about this tech because it's not what we'll be using in CPUs in the future. The is meh.
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Thought I would quote this from the other 1000-core thread:
Not seeing "more expensive" such a valid point? It is software, and most multithreaded CPUs today cost actually less than what they used to cost before. It is just time for people to start sending them through school again.
post #57 of 84
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just because something has been out for a year doesnt mean its obsolete. DDR3 has been out for years now. are you saying that its obsolete?
DDR3 is obsolete - people already want DDR4. In the computer world, a year is entirely obsolete. Doesn't mean unusable, but certainly obsolete. A 9800GT video card is usable, even though it is at least two generations removed from the current level of technology.

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...if intel's i7 is the flagship right now and they dont have anything else out, how is it obsolete?
It's obsolete because it has already been out for too long. People want i9 and i11 already, and they are products that Intel had already announced, but remain vapour. Just like now, people consider Athlon and Phenom to be obsolete because of Bulldozer. I don't think this applies in other realms, because the markets are more stable, and there is little need for technical progress. Intel falls into the trap of creating the expectation that they will provide platforms that conform to Moore's Law - and now, people expect that every 18 months, something new and doubled to come out.

People are now getting disgruntled, simply because the manufacturers have really been holding back, like the vapour that USB 3 is, or DDR4 is, and so on and so forth.

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they dont know that GMA is a heap of ****!
i tell every1 to stay away from intel lappys with GMA. but they say 'its HD so that means its good!'
intel's propaganda is corrupting our system! it has brainwashed ppl more than apple brainwashes their customers.
What is worse is that the market provides no alternative - at least in anything people can easily purchase. It also helps that Intel forces manufacturers to use GMA if they want to use the processors. I consider that to be monopolistic, since it removes choice. Of course, there is the AMD NEO, but there are so very few machines that are available that have that alternative. And to say that you want to stay away from Intel laptops that have GMA means that one removes themselves from any portable laptops, into the high end of high cost, giant sized laptops that are not suited for mobile use.

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core 2 quad? lagging? in MICROSOFT OFFICE?
dude, my athlon 64 3500+ doesn't lag in office. why would a quad core lag?
2003 didn't lag. 2007 lagged a little with the 3500+, but 2010 DOES NOT LAG thanks to GPU optimization.

its still hard to believe a C2Q would lag in a BASIC app like office.
It does - my machine at work suffers from lots of lag, and not just in Office, but in pretty much all applications. Of course, it could be the limits imposed by IT, since I am not allowed to fix anything up myself. But then, the C2Q is obsolete, and was a kind of freakshow of a processor from the get-go. Not that Intel lacks skills when it comes to oddball processors that have bad ideas at the highest cost.

All I can think is that an Intel 1000 core processor could execute a thousand bug patches simultaneously - or simply fail to correctly compute floating point operations faster than they ever failed before.
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It's obsolete because it has already been out for too long. People want i9 and i11 already, and they are products that Intel had already announced, but remain vapour.





What are you talking about people wanting Core i9 and i11?

Can't you understand the the monikers i3, i5 and i7 and just to serve as segment positioning and not to name CPUs themselves?

If Intel decides to keep the "Core i" line for the next years, you will still only see i3, i5 and i7. They are segments, nothing else.

Do you even consider yourself a serious member of OCN when you utter such idiotic crap?

Saying that Core i7 is "obsolete" is entirely ridiculous and laughable, since it's not a CPU but rather a line of CPUs. Intel could keep the Core i naming scheme for all eternity, would that make new CPUs obsolete?

See how hard you fail?
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games only use like, 2.

dont care.
Not so true there are more and more games that take advantage and perform better on quads than duals.

Then further more there are games that make use of 6 cores giving the system performance increases of up to 10% or more over the humble quad.
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Big Deal.

I scooped this long ago, and no one listened. Maybe i should throw the word "Intel" for it to get looked at.

Here's background on FPGA before glasgow made news.

"INTEL".

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