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^The only problem is that all those cards listed suck at tessellation and CUDA.

For reference, my 470 overclocked to 815/1740 @ 1.087v, my GTS250 overclocked to 800/1990/1000, and my i3 at 4.3ghz, all at 100% load pulls 410 watts from the wall.

People grossly overestimate power requirements.
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my system is fine, with my 470
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^The only problem is that all those cards listed suck at tessellation and CUDA.

For reference, my 470 overclocked to 815/1740 @ 1.087v, my GTS250 overclocked to 800/1990/1000, and my i3 at 4.3ghz, all at 100% load pulls 410 watts from the wall.

People grossly overestimate power requirements.
Tessellation and Cuda? What does that mean exactly?
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Tessellation and Cuda? What does that mean exactly?
CUDA is basically GPU hardware acceleration for calculations. It's used for stuff like rendering, CAD programs, etc.

Tessellation has to do with 3D graphics quality...



Notice the cobblestone...

Tess On:



Tess Off:




Tessellation tends to cripple ATI 5000 series cards, while Fermi based cards breeze through it.
Edited by AyeYo - 12/30/10 at 5:34am
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CUDA is basically GPU hardware acceleration for calculations. It's used for stuff like rendering, CAD programs, etc.

Tessellation has to do with 3D graphics quality...



Notice the cobblestone...

Tess On:



Tess Off:




Tessellation tends to cripple ATI 5000 series cards, while Fermi based cards breeze through it.
Hmmm, interesting pictures and information. I'll keep that in mind then.
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Hey Vitaminx;
I did just go from a 8800GTS to a EVGA GTX 470 SC & just love it!
It is absolutely amazing compared to the 8 series & a HUGE performance jump.!!!
This card is no less than 3 times the performance of my last card...
At stock voltage I can OC this card by 32% with most games maxed out on either High, Very High or Ultra & still have smooth gameplay.
Example: BF-BC2 on High with x16AF-x8AA @ 1680x1050 & still gets 55-65 FPS!

The Nvidia Cuda & DirectCompute comes into play with a lot of apps too & really helps in the all around performance of your system as well which is a big plus going Nvidia.
Like using MediaEspresso 6 for rendering utilizing all the Cuda cores really speeds it up!

But I can tell you first hand that the EVGA GTX 470 SC series is worth the extra money for the excellent OCing they have as they use the higher quality dies for them with a higher default core voltage.
Btw, I went ahead & bought the EVGA highflow rear bracket to help keep it cool & it really helps as it idles around 30c & never goes above 70c gaming while OCed the whole time.


Edited by MUff1N - 12/30/10 at 11:14am
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Hey Vitaminx;
I did just go from a 8800GTS to a EVGA GTX 470 SC & just love it!
It is absolutely amazing compared to the 8 series & a HUGE performance jump.!!!
This card is no less than 3 times the performance of my last card...
At stock voltage I can OC this card by 32% with most games maxed out on either High, Very High or Ultra & still have smooth gameplay.
Example: BF-BC2 on High with x16AF-x8AA @ 1680x1050 & still gets 55-65 FPS!

The Nvidia Cuda & DirectCompute comes into play with a lot of apps too & really helps in the all around performance of your system as well which is a big plus going Nvidia.
Like using MediaEspresso 6 for rendering utilizing all the Cuda cores really speeds it up!

But I can tell you first hand that the EVGA GTX 470 SC series is worth the extra money for the excellent OCing they have as they use the higher quality dies for them with a higher default core voltage.
Btw, I went ahead & bought the EVGA highflow rear bracket to help keep it cool & it really helps as it idles around 30c & never goes above 70c gaming while OCed the whole time.
Wow thanks for all that info. My 8800GTS is overclocked at the moment and idles at around 52 Celsius. What did yours idle at? And for that highflow rear bracket, that just snaps on to the end of the card and it helps with cooling correct?
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Quick question: Would my PSU be fine if I ever got a 580GTX? Or would that be pushing the limits so to speak?

And also would my E8400 hold back a 470GTX to perform at it's full potential? I've gotten curious about bottlenecking since watching this video:


Edited by Vitaminx - 12/31/10 at 4:58am
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Wow thanks for all that info. My 8800GTS is overclocked at the moment and idles at around 52 Celsius. What did yours idle at? And for that highflow rear bracket, that just snaps on to the end of the card and it helps with cooling correct?
Because I've ALWAYS controlled the fan speeds of my cards via Precision, my cards always have ran cooler than most that leave it on auto & expect the card's bios to do it.
If you do that it will always run hotter & the hotter it gets, the less stable it will be & it won't OC as well either.
I have excellent airflow through my case & this also helps to keep everything cool.
I also did a little modification by adding an additional 80mm fan in back of the graphics card to pull the heat exhausted out the back away faster & control it using Speedfan. So as the temps of the card go up so does the speed of the 80mm exhaust fan.


As for your first question of what did my 8800GTS idle at?
45-52c depending on the ambient room temps.

For your second question, does the highflow bracket snap on? NO!
You have to remove the screws holding the stock bracket on the back & put them back in using the custom highflow bracket.
Its easy to do...

Quote:
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Quick question: Would my PSU be fine if I ever got a 580GTX? Or would that be pushing the limits so to speak?

And also would my E8400 hold back a 470GTX to perform at it's full potential? I've gotten curious about bottlenecking since watching this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGdo75gasaQ
Personally I think the GTX 580 would be pushing your PSU limits.
I ALWAYS use a PSU that has more power than I need to make sure that I always have plenty of power when needed such as the 800w CM Silent Pro Gold I use that has a 90% efficiency rating with 98A on a single rail.

"Would my E8400 hold back a 470GTX to perform at it's full potential?"

Looks like your system's specs are pretty close to mine & I haven't found my E8400 (at 4GHz-3DMark benches below) to be any kind of bottle neck on any games at all with the exception of COD-Black Ops which seems to be a problem even for quad core CPU's in the fastest systems because of the poor game engine design...
It might help a bit if you were to go ahead & increase your CPU speed to 4GHz though as the E8400 does this easily enough.


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Quick question: Would my PSU be fine if I ever got a 580GTX? Or would that be pushing the limits so to speak?
No, I ran a 480 on a 550W with 39A (475W on the 12V rail). A overclocked i7 will draw up to 200W at full load under something like intelburntest. A 580 will draw something like 250W Max, fans and all that don't use very much at all. ALSO take notice that there are few, if any times, that there will be 100% draw on both the CPU and GPU. Synthetic tests that use something like OCCT + LinX show a worst case that would never occur in world.
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