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Well, I was looking for a new HSF (because I'm pissed I had to remove my side fan with my Zalman tower style)

I'm looking for stuff under $150:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...noctua%20nhc14
http://www.silentpcreview.com/Noctua_NH-C14_CPU_Cooler

Vs.

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/11...?tl=g30c83s137

I'm sure that the WC kit will be better, but by how much? and is it worth it?

According to http://www.techpowerup.com/realtemp/
my idle (with delta on):
low 20's to 25c
load via Crysis:
35c
load via IBT on stock:
55c or 52c with Delta on

Great temps (imo) for a lynnfields, and I do plan to overclock, although when I was stabilizing with Vcore 1.35 @ 4ghz I reached 70's on IBT.

I'm going to be modding my case a bit later for various reasons, and I'm fine with my temps but this is my one qualm:
with the Noctua NHC14, I won't be able to use my delta which is 120mm

So which would you guys recommend for me? The cheaper Air Cooler, or the better performing Water Cooler.

I have a $150 budget, an I doubt I could fit custome WC equipment on there

This is my case Watercooled by a different user on here:
http://www.overclock.net/water-cooli...solano-wc.html
     
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If I were to choose an air cooler, I would probably go with the Thermalright Silver Arrow. It is probably the best cooler as of now. Current price is ~$90 but I did see one in the OCN market for $70 shipped. Air cooling is a little bit less on maintenance. You pretty much install it, blow it out of dust now and then, and go back to actually use your rig. But if you normally fiddle around your rig, you'd probably enjoy water cooling.

I've heard nothing but good things about the kit. The CPU block really isn't a looker, but for <$150 who cares. You'll have fun putting it together, you'll learn a bunch from it, and later on you have the capability to upgrade bits and pieces for better performance or just to match the theme of your case. It's a little bit more involved with maintenance (ie. Change water couple of months) and there is the chance of a leak destroying your rig, but in the end, you'll really enjoy the look of it. Not to mention the very nice temperatures and overclocking headroom. But I was never one for kits. I liked choosing the parts I wanted and the look I wanted.

I know I probably didn't answer your question, but the Silver Arrow and the XSPC Rasa kit would be very nice choices. You can't go wrong with either. It's just up to you whether or not you want to try your hands on Watercooling.

But if you were only to choose from that air cooler you've chosen and the Rasa, I'd choose the kit for the experience and fun of watercooling.
post #3 of 14
Air cooler if you don't mind the extra space needed in the case and noise.

Watercooling will get you at least similar temps to what you have now but in overclock, and be quieter IMHO.


Depends on what you want.
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If I were to choose an air cooler, I would probably go with the Thermalright Silver Arrow. It is probably the best cooler as of now. Current price is ~$90 but I did see one in the OCN market for $70 shipped. Air cooling is a little bit less on maintenance. You pretty much install it, blow it out of dust now and then, and go back to actually use your rig. But if you normally fiddle around your rig, you'd probably enjoy water cooling.

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I know I probably didn't answer your question, but the Silver Arrow and the XSPC Rasa kit would be very nice choices. You can't go wrong with either. It's just up to you whether or not you want to try your hands on Watercooling.

But if you were only to choose from that air cooler you've chosen and the Rasa, I'd choose the kit for the experience and fun of watercooling.
Thanks for taking the time (I FORGOT THAT WCING CAN KILL MY RIG), but I'm not looking for a tower style like the Silver Arrow as I already have a Large tall tower, I was looking for a blower style top down HSF like the C14 vs the D14 and silver arrow:

reallly the height constraints is the problem

But hmm the xpsc rasa seems like a great kit, and I'd love to have it. I expected maintence to be a weekly thing for water, but if its every few months then . I open my case up biweekly, secure connections, and blow out dust anyways .
     
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I expected maintence to be a weekly thing for water, but if its every few months then . I open my case up biweekly, secure connections, and blow out dust anyways .
The only maintenance once you fill it up with distilled+Killcoil, is check for leaks and keep radiators clean of dust. The later is something you need to do for air HSFs anyways.
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That rasa is actually a very good block. It is probably the second best block out there behind the EK Supreme HF by only a degree or less. Personally i would go with the kit as it's a great value and you will get some nice temps out of it without having a bulky mass right on your motherboard.
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That rasa is actually a very good block. It is probably the second best block out there behind the EK Supreme HF by only a degree or less. Personally i would go with the kit as it's a great value and you will get some nice temps out of it without having a bulky mass right on your motherboard.
Thanks for the help guys, I'll probably go for the xpsc

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/12...?tl=g30c83s137

I wish I could by the EK. I might if I get the money but meh :/ its not worth it for me.
     
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Thanks for the help guys, I'll probably go for the xpsc

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/12...?tl=g30c83s137

I wish I could by the EK. I might if I get the money but meh :/ its not worth it for me.
Ooo have fun getting wet! Don't worry, sooner or later you'll want to upgrade that kit. It's just a matter of time till you get an EK block. Good luck!
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Ooo have fun getting wet! Don't worry, sooner or later you'll want to upgrade that kit. It's just a matter of time till you get an EK block. Good luck!
Thanks you guys

Haha, yup I'll upgrade eventually to a custom set up.
     
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post #10 of 14
the EK block and the Rasa block are suppose to be within only a few degrees of eachother for performance.
I love my Rasa kit and would recommend it to anybody, I paid 150 plus the cost of the killcoil and water from the local store.
My bill came to 231 dollars, but i also bought blue feser tubing and some other things for modding an H50 on my secondary gaming rig.
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