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Ok, fixed my problem. I had to delete compiz.desktop, and then reinstall compiz-fusion (actually, I started to reinstall compiz-fusion, but I saw the package compiz-decorator-gtk and installed that alone). Then I set the command in the window decoration plugin to compiz-decorator-gtk --replace.

As for hot corners, I am not sure if that's actually what they are called. I may have been the mac name for it It's when you put your mouse in the corner of a screen and it performs an action.
    
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Ok, fixed my problem. I had to delete compiz.desktop, and then reinstall compiz-fusion (actually, I started to reinstall compiz-fusion, but I saw the package compiz-decorator-gtk and installed that alone). Then I set the command in the window decoration plugin to compiz-decorator-gtk --replace.

As for hot corners, I am not sure if that's actually what they are called. I may have been the mac name for it It's when you put your mouse in the corner of a screen and it performs an action.
KDE 4.5 has that built in, it's the top left. =P It's always had that built in.
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KDE 4.5 has that built in, it's the top left. =P It's always had that built in.
Really? Hmm, I'll give KDE (another) look. It seems whenever I think I've found something I need missing, it's in there somewhere. Unfortunately, last few times I booted it up, Kwin was complaining about performance and started disabling things (like compositing). I didn't have an issue with the performance, but Kwin did. I'll dig into it, but just in case I don't find anything, any ideas?

Edit: Turns out I was wrong. Performance was horrible. I can use xrender, but that seems to be missing much of what I want. OpenGL performance is abysmal. Is there something I need to do to fix that?

Edit 2: Even xrender is super slow, though less so. It seems to get ~5-10fps rather than OpenGL's 3 seconds per frame.
Edited by E_man - 12/31/10 at 1:23am
    
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If you want to run Compiz (fusion?) in its entirety and you want the gtk-window-manager to work right you need to invoke it with the command compiz ccp --replace.
    
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KWin is pretty slow with ATI cards. Not surprising when both KDE and AMD have quality issues with their software releases.
    
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If you want to run Compiz (fusion?) in its entirety and you want the gtk-window-manager to work right you need to invoke it with the command compiz ccp --replace.
Yeah, I had meant the decorator :/ Figured that part out though.

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KWin is pretty slow with ATI cards. Not surprising when both KDE and AMD have quality issues with their software releases.
I was actually talking about on my netbook. I don't see why compiz should be able to display effects like crazy, and Kwin does nothing but choke. I also noticed, in gnome, my processor usage is ~5% in idle, and it's ~20% in KDE in idle. Kind of disappointing. I'm pretty sure Kwin is the culprit, since i get the same results in gnome using Kwin as a manager in gnome.
    
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KDE is a resource hog, always has been. =( I also notice gnome being faster and my desktop is pretty decent for something like this. If your having issues with it I would just stick with Gnome. You could even go to XFCE and compiz.

Compiz + KDE4 Window decorator = extreme memory leak, at least on my system. I can't do it, the whole system locks up in no time.
Edited by mushroomboy - 12/31/10 at 11:07am
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If you use NVIDIA hardware it works pretty good. Xrender is definitely faster on my system than OpenGL though. OpenGL is ok for most things but scaling and minimising windows is very slow, especially if I don't set Powermizer to run in performance mode (but even if I do it's still slow). XRender lacks the fancy but completely unrealistic blur effect on glassy elements, but it does a much better job of tooltips. OpenGL doesn't do the translucent edges correctly.
    
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If you use NVIDIA hardware it works pretty good. Xrender is definitely faster on my system than OpenGL though. OpenGL is ok for most things but scaling and minimising windows is very slow, especially if I don't set Powermizer to run in performance mode (but even if I do it's still slow). XRender lacks the fancy but completely unrealistic blur effect on glassy elements, but it does a much better job of tooltips. OpenGL doesn't do the translucent edges correctly.
See that's odd because with OGL I get perfect performance with Nvidia. It might be the card/drivers, or it could be I have different libraries installed too. I've done some modifications due to dependency problems so I had to compile my own libs for a few things, who knows.
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I was actually talking about on my netbook. I don't see why compiz should be able to display effects like crazy, and Kwin does nothing but choke. I also noticed, in gnome, my processor usage is ~5% in idle, and it's ~20% in KDE in idle. Kind of disappointing. I'm pretty sure Kwin is the culprit, since i get the same results in gnome using Kwin as a manager in gnome.
Intel drivers are even worse than ATI drivers though, at least in terms of performance.


And KWin is slow with everything really, just more so with ATI. Some of the effects run at < 1 FPS, even on my 4870. I have to force 3d clocks on my 460 when I'm using KDE because its slow at 2d clocks.
    
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