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post #11 of 20
are you running analog out into the receiver?

Or are you getting distortion via spdif out ? (this would be very strange)
    
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I also heard that setting things to 100% will ensure that minimal modification is done to the audio bits, resulting in a better sound... is this true?
Can't say for sure since I have never heard that reasoning. But I hate when the sound peaks and I rather lower the source volume and balance the output.
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Yep, analog out.

I guess I'll just have to either stick with my Audio Creation Mode modification or change my listening habits... good to know that I'm not the only one with this issue.
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Yep, analog out.

I guess I'll just have to either stick with my Audio Creation Mode modification or change my listening habits... good to know that I'm not the only one with this issue.
in that case this is very common. When i used to do similar back in the day i would run my PC's max volume at 75-80% and then just use the volume control on the receiver/amp to change it how it how I wanted....

as you use the programs that have their own volume control just max them out...

This is quite common unless you've got some LEGIT equipment.
    
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post #15 of 20
With my cheap X-Fi, windows volume to 100% - and I adjust all games/youtube/media players to compensate.

What level do you have the crystalliser on? The default is 65%, I like mine on 100%

Also why does the virtual 3d thing reset when i reboot windows?
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I haven't read through the whole thread but a few things I see right off from the OP...

1st, turn off all of the equalizers/enhancements/whatnot. Don't get upset about hardware distortion, if you are choosing to run your audio signal through all sorts of software distortion (ie, Crystallizer, any other "enhancements").

You SHOULD definitely set the X-fi 100%. The DAC/sound card will always be at 100%, and in fact, you should be running the fixed pre-out (if it has it) from your x-fi into your amp, rather than using software control.

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in that case this is very common. When i used to do similar back in the day i would run my PC's max volume at 75-80% and then just use the volume control on the receiver/amp to change it how it how I wanted....

as you use the programs that have their own volume control just max them out...

This is quite common unless you've got some LEGIT equipment.
Sorry bro but you've got it exactly backwards, and you by no means need "LEGIT" equipment for the rules to apply. Control the volume by the last piece of equipment in the chain- everything else is 100% all the time.

Whether it's my sister's USB speakers (leave software volume control at max and adjust via the volume knob on the speakers) or my seperates setup (volume is always controlled through amp) it's the same method.

EDIT2: Of course this is only from a best sound quality perspective. If it's easier for you to use odd volume levels and plugins then go right on ahead.
Edited by LingLing1337 - 12/30/10 at 6:59am
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LingLing1337, that's exactly what I thought: control volume only via the last component in the chain. Thing is, it distorts with this particular card (not with any inferior ones I've used though).

The Crystalizer shouldn't distort if used properly... at least that was Creative's intention.
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post #18 of 20
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I just meant that YouTube runs through Flash player, which does its own audio mixing, but Windows Media Player uses Windows Vista's new mixer. Check the Windows (not X-Fi) mixer and notice that the "Windows Media Player" slider moves.
That's just one of the ways Microsoft was trying to improve the convenience in Windows. Even Firefox has its own volume control in this "Mixer" thing. So, I never click "Mixer".

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It's only inconvenient because I have to keep track of each source and adjust 2 different volume controls. If everything is set to 100%, I can just use one volume control (my receiver's), but I guess the X-Fi has a different internal gain or something.
It was like this for me even back when I had the Audigy 2 in Windows XP: everything had its own volume control: Windows Media Player, YouTube, Windows, etc. Things didn't change when I got Windows 7, and they didn't change when I upgraded from the Audigy 2 to the X-Fi XtremeGamer. The only difference is that the XtremeGamer is much more powerful.

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Originally Posted by nookkin View Post
It required me to reinstall the driver on my old card because Audigy 4 cards have issues on Windows 7 apparently. If I adjusted bass/treble, the volume would go DOWN by about 40 dB (!!!) and nothing would bring it back up. Obviously not an issue with my X-Fi.
Oh yeah, that won't be an issue with this card.

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With my cheap X-Fi, windows volume to 100% - and I adjust all games/youtube/media players to compensate.
It's just an Audigy with the "X-Fi" name, so that's why you have different results

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What level do you have the crystalliser on? The default is 65%, I like mine on 100%
The default for me was 50%. Either way, I tend to have a strong preference for 75% to 85%. I liked it at 100% at first, but it was just because it was new and exciting. But then one day I was watching The Matrix Reloaded and noticed some static (high frequency distortion) during a scene with a TON of sound effects that have very, very high-pitched sounds (very Matrixy sounds to give effect to the code). So I knew right away that I had to turn down the treble somewhere. So I tried the Graphic EQ, the actual Treble knob, but then I suddenly remembered that the Crystalizer was at 100%. It wasn't until I turned the Crystalizer down that this distortion went away.

In the end though, it turns out that everything sounds better for me at this lower setting.

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Also why does the virtual 3d thing reset when i reboot windows?
I dunno. Make a thread about it.
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It should not be having distortion at 100%. You should leave the sound card's volume at 100% and control it through your amp. Do you have an input not muted, b/c sometimes that can cause an issue like this, even with nothing plugged in, although you would hope it wouldn't on a decent sound card.

Anyway, I leave mine at 100% and control volume level through my AVR125. Sounds great.
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Yeah, that's what I thought at first, because all other sound cards I've used work that way... do you have an X-Fi though? A Xonar D1 (based on your sig) is not an X-Fi and I'm sure it doesn't have this issue either.

How loud do you keep your individual applications' volume though?
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