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Anyone thinking about adding say an Arch, Slackware, or even Gentoo preview? I know you started out as "for the newbs" with this thread but I think we could also cover people in between like myself who are interested in the more "difficult" distros. At the very least this is already helpful enough. I just thought why not cover all the big/common ones we can. I for one believed that the test from the "which distro is for me" thread was good but the more a person understood things like DEs and package managers along with philosophy of each distro the more accurate the results became. And also, I've had more problems solved by getting help or reading older threads on here than from most distro's own forums.

Either way +1 to TFB and thanks to Jimi for venting your frustration to get the ball rolling.
     
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I think Arch and Slackware would be good. They would go into a new intermediate category. I think enorbert is a fan of slackware and I know quite a few guys use Arch. If no one else wants to do it, I could do the basics of Arch but not much more.
    
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An outlook of arch itself brings only a very slight move above Ubuntu, you could almost say above Debian but I'm sure if we included apt-build things would be roughly more even, with the exception of it not being community based. Otherwise the AUR would be no different than downloading the source yourself.

http://polishlinux.org/linux/debian/...timize-debian/

I would put it above debian in difficulty only because by default Arch doesn't automatically handle packages 100%. To say, if you want to install XFCE (or any DE) you have to first make sure you have Xorg and it's prerequisites installed. Outside of it's package manager it is exactly the same as every other distro, with a few philosophy differences (as they all are different).

I would also like to point out that Arch has issues with default paths. One of the biggest issues is the libgl.so file, as once you install Nvidia drivers you forever lose the ability to compile certain programs and can also lose function. I've found that re-installing the libgl package in pacman fixes this, but this is only a temp fix and partly breaks the nvidia drivers. This kept me from installing direct source and I had to use the AUR, which I think is wrong. There is also the problem with certain programs being installed in /opt by default.

http://www.osnews.com/story/8761/Arc...-of-All-Worlds
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Another problem with Arch is the fact that Gnome, KDE and especially Mozilla 
are installed in /opt/. I had a fair share of applications that just couldn't find 
the Mozilla SDK to compile against in /opt, even if the /etc/profile.d/ was 
updated. Monodevelop, Blam! was some of them. I believe that not having to 
dump everything on /usr is a good thing, however the Arch implementation 
doesn't always work as expected. Instead of basically replicating /usr on 
/opt/, some innovation would be welcome, just like Apple does with its 
/Applications folder.
I've found this while searching for problems with the libgl issues. So if anybody is suggesting Arch I would heavily advise that it has some structural differences that should either be fixed or your going to have to learn to deal with them. For those who have never encountered these problems, I'm pretty sure you guys don't like dealing with the raw source and have used the AUR. I have no problem with this, but learning the AUR is not learning Linux, it's just learning another package management system.

As soon as I get new DVDs I'm going to try Gentoo and Slackware again, enorbet has made me want to take a look at them.

[edit]
http://deanezra.com/2010/03/archlinu...ages-conflict/
Libgl fix, but that shouldn't happen. You should be able to compile source from any distro without this fix, I consider this a major problem.
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To use libgl, you have to be using the noveau drivers for an nvidia card. nvidia-utils' libgl works with the nvidia kernel module, while libgl works with the xf86-video drivers.
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To use libgl, you have to be using the noveau drivers for an nvidia card. nvidia-utils' libgl works with the nvidia kernel module, while libgl works with the xf86-video drivers.
Right, but Arch linux doesn't have things set up properly and the only way to compile things is to have the regular libgl installed. Which of course conflicts, so it's a problem. I'm just saying they need to fix things like that, that's something that shouldn't be happening.
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Right, but Arch linux doesn't have things set up properly and the only way to compile things is to have the regular libgl installed. Which of course conflicts, so it's a problem. I'm just saying they need to fix things like that, that's something that shouldn't be happening.
Yeah but I'm just saying that it might fall somewhere under the hole OSS vs proprietary debate. But there are indeed a few things wrong with Arch. Not signing their packages is the biggest IMO.
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Yeah but I'm just saying that it might fall somewhere under the hole OSS vs proprietary debate. But there are indeed a few things wrong with Arch. Not signing their packages is the biggest IMO.
Yeah, and that honestly didn't bother me. What really got me on arch was how everyone boasted about it's speed and amazing goodness.... When I tried it I kept getting memory leaks that would haunt me, and now back on Debian everything runs perfectly smooth. Granted it's not bleeding edge, but Gnome 2.30 packages aren't THAT far behind. I'm also on the 2.6.37 kernel from the Debian repo's, which is funny because that's BLEEDING edge. I just think that Arch was over hyped, it's just another packaged distro that so happens to be a rolling release. Where I would like a debian rolling release, and I could make this into one, I personally enjoy the stability and speed I've gotten with Debian.
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If you run Debian Testing then you have a pseudo rolling release. It's not truly rolling, since it does freeze every 18 months or so for a few months.
    
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A lot of people do that instead of use the desired names, it makes upgrading much easier. =)
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