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Radiator:
GTX360

CPU Block:
XSPC RASA

Pumps:
Swiftech MCP35X

Reservoir:
XSPC-BAYRES525-AL --- XSPC Bay Reservoir 5.25" - Aluminum Front -Black/Silver
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=27518
or
the reservoir that can be add to the 35X on top.

I cant add a Reservoir bigger then 1 slot the HAF X only got 4 slots :
1) taken by the radiator.
2) taken by DVD.
3) fan controller.
4) open (for the Reservoir if needed).



Fittings: no idea what I need (any help here would be helpful )
I need the

Clamps:
something good made of metal would be nice
I do rather use something like this without any screws...
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=25625



Tubing: (something really good that wont have any leeks flexible and that I wont need to change over time.. I wont change allot about the water cooling more then adding 2 GPU water blocks and maybe anther 120 or 240 radiator).
color: I generally want something blue (I didnt see something to cool looking in the pics on the shops) but I saw some amazing looking water cooling tubing and I do want one ...

(I think 1\\2 or bigger would be the way to go with the system ?...)

Coolant:
a non-conductive coolant.
I heard that this is the best you can fined:
FLUIDXP-NANO-INVBL -------- Fluid XP+ Nano-Fluid Liquid Cooling Fluid 32 oz. - Invisible Blue (pretty sure on this 1)

Fans:
Scythe Gentle Typhoon - D1225C12B5AP-15 - 1850rpm
I can buy 3 of those near my house 17$ each...

edit:

for the tubing I want something with color but it should be transparent xD (the transparent ones look the best xD)
Edited by ranerX3 - 12/30/10 at 12:06pm
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post #2 of 23
Just use distilled water and a biocide, those special coolants are nothing but a waste of money : http://skinneelabs.com/coolants.html?page=3
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Alright here are a few things:

Reservoir
I went with the Swiftech Microres Rev 2. It's a small and cheap reservoir and works perfectly fine. If you want to go with the bay res then you're good to go. The reservoir top for the MCP355 is also a great option. Here is a MCP355 plus the reservoir top if you want to go with that.

Coolant
DO NOT BUY COOLANT!!!! Regardless of what the label says it will eventually start to separate and will leave a colored gunk in your blocks meaning you would have to break the warranty and take it apart. Distilled water with a silver Kill Coil or some PT-Nuke.

Tubing
Most people go with a 1/2" ID 3/4" OD tubing and that will work fine. Here is an example of some red PrimoChill tubing which should work well (IDK what color you want).

Fittings
There are two types of fittings that you can go with. First are compression fittings which are very nice but also a good bit more expensive. They consist of two parts. The first part is a normal looking barb but it comes with a second part which is a metal collar which goes over the tubing. As you screw the collar on it pinches the tubing in between the collar and the barb creating a clamp-free seal. The problem with these is that they are all very expensive at about $6-$8 per fitting. The other type is a simple barb and clamp solution. I am not that much of a fan of those types of clamps that you listed as I used one that came with my pump and it leaked a little but that could have been because it was a plastic barb. I went with worm clamps and they are great IMO but they don't look too nice and that's why I would love to get me some compression fittings if I could afford them.
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the Swiftech Microres Rev 2 it do look pretty cool it look easy to mount into the case and good choice but will it be big enough ?

the MCP355 also look nice but I ment the MCP35X

ammm about the rev2 cost 26$ the reservoir on top of the mcp35x is 30$ and a single reservoir drive bay cost about 40$.
the drive bay look like the best option to me it will just take 1 bay and I wont need to think where to mount it like other reservoirs...

I wanted to buy a Coolant without any colors...
FLUIDXP-NANO-INVBL -------- Fluid XP+ Nano-Fluid Liquid Cooling Fluid 32 oz. - Invisible Blue


people told me that if I go with a coolent this 1 is the best.
and it also non conductive...

"water with a silver Kill Coil or some PT-Nuke"
dunno what is that is that ? , better then coolant ? (and where I buy this...)

what will be better a 1\\2 tubing or a 3\\4 ?

can you give me some links to a good compression fittings ?

is the compression fittings better and wont let water leak ?

if clamps can make my cooling leak I dont want them I better get something that is more secured or the compression fittings...

edit
{
by the way can I use compression fittings and clamps at the same time to get extra security or it wont do any good ?

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/21...html?tl=g30c97
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/64...l=g30c97#blank
what the difference between those 2 reservoirs ?
}

really thx for all the help you gave me in all the threads very appreciated
Edited by ranerX3 - 12/30/10 at 1:19pm
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post #5 of 23
Size of a res doesn't really matter. Pick one you can afford, mount easily, and looks decent.

Always go distilled water with a biocide (prevents algae growth). You can buy distilled water at your nearest grocery store for ~$1 a gallon. Much cheaper than your coolant, and will not hurt the system. Coolant is always discouraged here. You'll need kill coil or PT-nuke, as said they just prevent algae growth.

I would suggest the 1/2 tubing, easier to find fittings and whatnot for 1/2. However, it doesn't really matter.

A simple barb with a hose clamp done right will work just as good as the compression fittings. Compressions are very expensive, but if you have the money, they look great. Just make sure you match the ID and OD of your tubing to the fittings you buy. Also, you cannot use clamps with compression fittings, as the hose goes into the fitting.
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ok thx answered allot of questions


http://www.frozencpu.com/products/21...html?tl=g30c97
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/64...l=g30c97#blank
what the difference between those 2 reservoirs ?

I see 1 got a Pump if I get the 1 with the pump for 4$ more will it help my other pump or will it cause problems ?

how is this compression fitting:
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/62...tml?tl=g30c101

how much if this I need to buy for now I only run the system on the CPU ?...

I will also get some iron clamps for any case I need them...
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/78...tml?tl=g30c289
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One is a res/pump combo and the other is a nicer looking res. If you already have the pump, no need to get the combo.

Those fittings are fine, but you won't need the clamps with them.

You'll need a res, pump, radiator, cpu block, fittings, and tubing. You'll also want some good fans to cool your rad if you don't have any. Also the distilled water and kill coil/pt nuke.
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Originally Posted by bl1nk View Post
One is a res/pump combo and the other is a nicer looking res. If you already have the pump, no need to get the combo.

Those fittings are fine, but you won't need the clamps with them.

You'll need a res, pump, radiator, cpu block, fittings, and tubing. You'll also want some good fans to cool your rad if you don't have any. Also the distilled water and kill coil/pt nuke.
ok

so this is the system:

is that tubing is good ?
what is those Tygon tubing are they any better ?

also why is this so low priced ?
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/71...?tl=g30c99s172
they dont mansion how much length this thing come with ?


ps: can I fined this parts in anther store cheaper ?
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post #9 of 23
with compression fittings you dont need the clamps, hence the compression part of the compression fittings

Tygon tubing is very good but only comes in clear and black.

and the other tubing, you pay by the foot. price of the tubing + how ever many feet your going to need.

and all those prices are going to be in the ball park at other stores.
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post #10 of 23
Pretty much just lose the clamps because you have compression fittings. Also do not buy the retail packs. If you divide it up by feet you actually pay more if you buy the retail packs for the same tubing. When you get the tubing it will still come in one long hose. Other then that you got it perfect IMO
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