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other stores seem to be at list 15-20% cheaper the rad here cost way more then other stores same goes for all the parts...

thx for the info about the retail...

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(I will buy 3 GT 1850RPM fans near my hous so no fans in the pic...)

also what look better the same tube on the pic green or blue ???


how much more cooling performance will this cooling system give me over the RS360 cooling kit with GTX580 SLI (OC with voltage increase) and a I7 950@4.5 CPU (I7 950 just for compression the 2600k not out yet... ).

around how much degrease will my CPU and GPU's will ran at full load with each of the systems... ???
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If you go with SLI 580s and a quad core with hyper threading that high up you may want to invest in another radiator. SLI 580s push out a good bit of heat especially with higher voltages. How many degrees it will nobody can tell you without doing the tests themselves but like I said you may want to go with a second radiator. I personally am thinking of either two options: One would be adding a 360mm radiator at the bottom of my 700D (by taking out the bottom hard drive cage) or by selling my 700D and getting two smaller cases with one being for all my radiators, pump, and reservoir.
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ammm not really sure I will have 580 probably just 2X570 but I wanted to take the worst situation if I decide to go with 580 SLI.

anyway will their be a big difference in cooling between the 2 systems ?

if I see the 1 rad cant handle all the hit I can always add anther one...
just 2 questions:
1) just for the RS360 kit vs the system I plan on will their be a big difference with a systems that make allot of hit on load ?...
2) just for the CPU will their be a big difference I7 950@4.5 ?...

by the way will I need more types of fittings or the ones I took is enough ?
also will 10 be enough or I need more ?
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Originally Posted by ranerX3;11840446 
ammm not really sure I will have 580 probably just 2X570 but I wanted to take the worst situation if I decide to go with 580 SLI.

anyway will their be a big difference in cooling between the 2 systems ?

if I see the 1 rad cant handle all the hit I can always add anther one...
just 2 questions:
1) just for the RS360 kit vs the system I plan on will their be a big difference with a systems that make allot of hit on load ?...
2) just for the CPU will their be a big difference I7 950@4.5 ?...

by the way will I need more types of fittings or the ones I took is enough ?
also will 10 be enough or I need more ?
If you need more cooling power you can always just add another radiator.

1 - Unfortunately there probably won't be that big of a difference and that's why those kits are selling so well. With the system you drew up you will have a better pump and I think the same everything else?? With those kits being so cheap I really don't know if getting custom built ones is worth the extra $$

2 - What do you mean will there be a big difference? The difference between what and the i7 950@4.5??
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I suggest doing a little more research...
do some research on how much heat the graphics cards put out in watts
do some research on how much heat cpu will put out in watts at the voltage and clock you plan on running.
also need to take into how much heat the pump adds to the loop(18w)
do some research on anything you plan on putting into the loop
here's a start http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp

do some research on how much radiators your gonna need to handle the heat load you plan on putting in your loop
here's a start http://skinneelabs.com/triplesv2.html

from some of the questions asked i would suggest more research...
did you read the sticky at the top of this forum? i just looked at it... pretty much everything you need to know is in it... read it... understand it... love it
http://www.overclock.net/water-cooling/226970-water-cooling-essential-threads.html

when i built my current wc loop... i've spent at least 3 months gathering parts and at the same time did tons of reading

didn't really look if there was a vendor list in the sticky... but my top 3 recommended would be
1. sidewindercomputers.com
2. performance-pcs.com
3. frozencpu.com

in that order, by price... frozencpu seems to have most of the goodies though
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If you need more cooling power you can always just add another radiator.

1 - Unfortunately there probably won't be that big of a difference and that's why those kits are selling so well. With the system you drew up you will have a better pump and I think the same everything else?? With those kits being so cheap I really don't know if getting custom built ones is worth the extra $$

2 - What do you mean will there be a big difference? The difference between what and the i7 950@4.5?
?

1) was if their will be a big difference in between the RS360 kit VS my build with a I7 950 @4.5 and 2 GTX580 (how many degrease different ...)

2) was with a I7 950@4.5 alone without a cooling for my gpu's will their be a big different (how many degrease different ...).

the custom one will cost me over double the money...

edit:
what will cool better a GTX360 with 6 GT fans at 1850 RPM or a GTX360 with 3 3000RPM fans ?
808MP5 at the benchs you gave me I see the GTX360 is far far better then the other rads when it have 300RPM fans with 2000RPM fans the difference isnt big but it still beat them so will a push pull confi of 1850RPM beat the 3000RPM fans ?
Edited by ranerX3 - 12/31/10 at 4:44am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ranerX3;11840601 
1) was if their will be a big difference in between the RS360 kit VS my build with a I7 950 @4.5 and 2 GTX580 (how many degrease different ...)

2) was with a I7 950@4.5 alone without a cooling for my gpu's will their be a big different (how many degrease different ...).

the custom one will cost me over double the money...

edit:
what will cool better a GTX360 with 6 GT fans at 1850 RPM or a GTX360 with 3 3000RPM fans ?
808MP5 at the benchs you gave me I see the GTX360 is far far better then the other rads when it have 300RPM fans with 2000RPM fans the difference isnt big but it still beat them so will a push pull confi of 1850RPM beat the 3000RPM fans ?

1 - There is no way to jsut tell you how many degrees different it would be unless you have someone with both set ups to test it out but IMO you could do it with some quality fans but temps wouldn't be super impressive (load in the high 60s probably).

2 - There would be a huge difference between having just the CPU in the loop and both GPUs and the CPU in the loop because you aren't dumping anywhere near as much heat energy into the loop. How many degrees specifically can't really be said but it would be substantial.

3 - 1815 RPM Gentle Typhoons are actually some of the best fans you can get for radiators as they have solid static pressure and are very quiet for the amount of air they push. Whether or not they would beat three 3000 RPM idk.
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1 - There is no way to jsut tell you how many degrees different it would be unless you have someone with both set ups to test it out but IMO you could do it with some quality fans but temps wouldn't be super impressive (load in the high 60s probably).

2 - There would be a huge difference between having just the CPU in the loop and both GPUs and the CPU in the loop because you aren't dumping anywhere near as much heat energy into the loop. How many degrees specifically can't really be said but it would be substantial.

3 - 1815 RPM Gentle Typhoons are actually some of the best fans you can get for radiators as they have solid static pressure and are very quiet for the amount of air they push. Whether or not they would beat three 3000 RPM idk.


ok

can you show me a good 45D compression fittings I can get in frozenCPU ? I want one on my CPU water block one on the radiator and anther 1 if I need it... (I made a pic of how I think I will mount the rad and all the stuff, a 45D fittings would help...)
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what will cool better a GTX360 with 6 GT fans at 1850 RPM or a GTX360 with 3 3000RPM fans ?
808MP5 at the benchs you gave me I see the GTX360 is far far better then the other rads when it have 300RPM fans with 2000RPM fans the difference isnt big but it still beat them so will a push pull confi of 1850RPM beat the 3000RPM fans ?

i honestly can't answer that question...
my guess would be push pull with the slower fans
if it was up to me and cost didn't matter that would be the route that i would take
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ok just some question before I order...
http://www.jab-tech.com/Bitspower-G1-4-Matte-Black-Compression-Fitting-1-2-ID-3-4-OD-Tube-BP-MBCPF-CC5-pr-4581.html
http://www.jab-tech.com/Bitspower-Silver-Compression-Fitting-1-2-to-3-4-pr-4218.html
http://www.jab-tech.com/Bitspower-G1-4-Silver-Shining-Rotary-Compression-Fitting-CC5-For-ID-1-2-OD-3-4-Tube-BP-RCPF-CC5-pr-4659.html
what should I get of those is it forth paying my money for the more expensive ones ?
the cheaper one cost 6.15$ and the second one cost 7.99$ and the most expensive is 10.80$ is that worth my money or should I just get the cheapest ?...

http://www.jab-tech.com/Feser-Tube-Active-UV-Hose-1-2-quot-ID-3-4-quot-OD-UV-Acid-Green-pr-4287.html
I didnt really understand what the length for each 1 I order I think it say 80CM... but want to be sure redface.gif (by the way is it a good tube ?)

how much tubes length should I order ?

and last question could you give me a link to buying a distilled water on that store, what the difference between silver Kill Coil and PT-Nuke ???

the distilled water need to be mix with the pt-nuke or the silver kill coil and put in the res right ???

by the way on jab-tech the same parts cost me about 70$ less then FROZENCPU smile.gifsmile.gifbiggrin.gif:D
Edited by ranerX3 - 12/31/10 at 10:57am
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My build :)
(15 items)
 
little sis
(12 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
I7 2600K @ 4.9 1.41v Z77 Gigabyte G1.Sniper 3 (Gigabyte P67 UD7 old) Gigabyte GTX580 SLI 2x4GB HyperX Fury  
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingMonitor
crucial mx100 256GB 3x1TB WD black rasa block + 2xGTX360 rad's + 2EK waterblocks DELL P2414H 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
corsair 1200AX HAF stacker G400,Performance MX, Roccat Kone XTD beyerdynamic DT 770M 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
intel core i7 920 gigabyte x58 extreme integrated water cooling nvidia gtx285 2GB 3x2GB Kingston 1333mhz 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
2x1TB WD black XSPC 360AX win7 ultimate DELL U2311H 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
corsair AX1200 HAF-X logitech G400 audio technica ath-m50 
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