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Give me the Windows 7 GUI on top of Linux or BSD under pinnings and I'll worry about the software, graphics drivers and games second.
Windows 7 has a nice looking GUI, but that's not the reason I use Windows 7. I think the GUI of Ubuntu is more than enough. That's not the problem with Linux. The problem is its lack of drivers (I can't even use my GPU in BOINC in Ubuntu because of this) and exclusive software (which games are part of). No one will use Linux for the sake of Firefox (which is already available on Windows and Mac OS X anyway), because cross-platform software don't give the average John Doe an incentive to use GNU/Linux.
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They're ditching an American-based OS for another American-based OS? Cool story.

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inb4 communism hate.
Yes, because Communism and tyranny is great.

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They're ditching an American-based OS for another American-based OS? Cool story.


How is the Linux-Kernel in ANY WAY American?
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They're ditching an American-based OS for another American-based OS? Cool story.



Yes, because Communism and tyranny is great.

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Linus Torvalds (linux founder) is Finnish...

OT: I think I posted something like this a few months ago, and in that thread, someone had a link to a story that was almost identical posted ~1 year before that. I didn't see any new info here, are people (the sources, not this thread) forgetting that they already posted it, and posting it again?
    
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Windows 7 has a nice looking GUI, but that's not the reason I use Windows 7. I think the GUI of Ubuntu is more than enough. That's not the problem with Linux. The problem is its lack of drivers (I can't even use my GPU in BOINC in Ubuntu because of this) and exclusive software (which games are part of). No one will use Linux for the sake of Firefox (which is already available on Windows and Mac OS X anyway), because cross-platform software don't give the average John Doe an incentive to use GNU/Linux.
The average John Doe just goes and checks his email and looks at porn.
Arguably a better experience on Linux then Windows because of the whole security thing (viruses).

And Chrome OS is probably not old enough for Russia to consider adopting.
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Does anyone on here realize that a large organization such as the Russian government opting to switch to Linux is not "free"? To first point out the obvious, I doubt they will be running copies of Ubuntu that they have downloaded. More than likely they will be using a commercial distro, like Red Hat that has a subscription fee for support which leads me to my next point.

There are plenty of people in the world that know absolutely nothing about the Linux operating system, let alone when you limit it to a particular distro. Most people don't know much about any open source software for that matter. This makes these people unique as well as more expensive to employ. To me, the switch to a different operating system, especially a free "underdog" of an operating system is actually quite expensive. You need to make your choice as a boss, do I pay to train my existing employees, or do I hire all new ones?


Note: I am not saying it is cheaper to stick with something like Windows. Just stating it's not anywhere near free to switch.
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Linus Torvalds (linux founder) is Finnish...
ahh ok, my bad, I misread an article about the origin of Linux then.
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Does anyone on here realize that a large organization such as the Russian government opting to switch to Linux is not "free"? To first point out the obvious, I doubt they will be running copies of Ubuntu that they have downloaded. More than likely they will be using a commercial distro, like Red Hat that has a subscription fee for support which leads me to my next point.

There are plenty of people in the world that know absolutely nothing about the Linux operating system, let alone when you limit it to a particular distro. Most people don't know much about any open source software for that matter. This makes these people unique as well as more expensive to employ. To me, the switch to a different operating system, especially a free "underdog" of an operating system is actually quite expensive. You need to make your choice as a boss, do I pay to train my existing employees, or do I hire all new ones?


Note: I am not saying it is cheaper to stick with something like Windows. Just stating it's not anywhere near free to switch.
In Soviet Russia, Linux adopts you.

Has anyone said that yet?

When they say national operating system this sounds like for the people more so then just for business. They probably want to save on the billions lost from internet crime. Switching to Linux solves some of the problems. Doesn't really create new ones that I can think of but time will tell.

Also, do we know if it is going to be one distro or maybe it could just be Linux in general.
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They're ditching an American-based OS for another American-based OS? Cool story.
Linux is a kernel and not an operating system. GNU has no national origin (perhaps you could say it's Jewish since Stallman is Jewish), and GNU/Linux is not really owned by anyone since it's published under the GNU GPL v2 and above, which means it is a shared commons (i.e., Communist) software.

And there are many non-American contributors to both the Linux kernel and the GNU software Unix-like tools.

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The average John Doe just goes and checks his email and looks at porn.
The average John Doe doesn't understand how to install Windows, never mind GNU/Linux.

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Arguably a better experience on Linux then Windows because of the whole security thing (viruses).
Porn doesn't come with viruses usually, it's more spyware on pr0n sites. But the experience is actually better on Windows since Windows has better support for codecs in general as well as proprietary codecs (Flash etc.).

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And Chrome OS is probably not old enough for Russia to consider adopting.
True.

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In Soviet Russia, Linux adopts you.

Has anyone said that yet?
Close enough:

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In Russia the system operates you.


i love these type of quotes, always make me laugh.
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When they say national operating system this sounds like for the people more so then just for business. They probably want to save on the billions lost from internet crime. Switching to Linux solves some of the problems. Doesn't really create new ones that I can think of but time will tell.

Also, do we know if it is going to be one distro or maybe it could just be Linux in general.
I'm sure they'll encourage Russian citizens to start using Russia Linux but I believe zee Russians are motivated to adopt GNU/Linux because they want to give the US economy the finger more than anything else. I mean, they could've easily just used Red Hat or any commercial GNU/Linux distribution, or Mac OS X for that matter. But they don't want the US economy to make profit through Russian computers.
Edited by EliasAlucard - 12/31/10 at 10:29am
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