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Originally Posted by rui-no-onna View Post
In case you missed it:

Gulftown
i7-980X - March 2010 ($999)
i7-970 - July 2010 ($885)

The Conroe's didn't really count since the enthusiast and mainstream processors were released at the same time.

By the way, the Yorkfields should have been:
QX9650 - November 2007 ($999)
Q9550 - March 2008 ($530)

The Q9650 was released after the QX9650 has been replaced as king of the hill by the QX9770/QX9775.

QX9770 - March 2008 ($1399)
Q9650 - August 2008 ($530)
I was simply going by this list http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...icroprocessors , and its purpose was to illustrate the fact that in the past Intel chose to release their Extreme version processors before the mainstream equivalents at a similar clock. Merely a suggestion, and a possible indication that Intel may release a mainstream 6-core processor.

Furthermore, I believe that if Intel were to release an 8-core, they would save it for Ivy Bridge.
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Originally Posted by tehlolzor View Post
The future of 1366 spans into the enterprise market so business applications must be considered. I haven't heard of any sole 1156 server boards, and I'm assuming I won't see any P67 server boards either. They are usually marketed as server/workstation(light load server and workstation)
P55 wasn't really for servers and I doubt P67 will be. LGA-1156 did have server/workstation chipsets (3400 series, I think) but they're on the low end of the totem pole.

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Originally Posted by Mattb2e View Post
I was simply going by this list http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...icroprocessors , and its purpose was to illustrate the fact that in the past Intel chose to release their Extreme version processors before the mainstream equivalents at a similar clock. Merely a suggestion, and a possible indication that Intel may release a mainstream 6-core processor.
Again, mainstream 6-core is already here - the Core i7-970. Pricing may be far from ideal but it's available. What's interesting are the similarities between Kentsfield and Gulftown.

The QX6700 is Intel's first quad-core CPU.
The i7-980X is Intel's first hexa-core CPU.

The Q6600 is Intel's first mainstream quad-core CPU.
The i7-970 is Intel's first mainstream hexa-core CPU.

The Q6600's release price was $851.
The i7-970's release price was $885.

The introduction of the QX6800 and subsequent release of the Q6700 bumped the price of the Q6600 down to ~$500 and eventually to ~$300. Hopefully, the release of the i7-990X would mean the same thing for the i7-970. If Gulftown follows Kentsfield, we'll eventually get:

i7-990X (or maybe i7-995X?) ~$1000
i7-980 ~$500
i7-970 ~$300

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Originally Posted by Mattb2e View Post
Furthermore, I believe that if Intel were to release an 8-core, they would save it for Ivy Bridge.
I think this bit of info is already confirmed. I seem to recall reading a leak somewhere that 8-core will have to wait until 22nm.
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i7-990X (or maybe i7-995X?) ~$1000
i7-980 ~$500
i7-970 ~$300
Is there precedent for Intel to lower prices on Extreme processors? The 975X hasn't come down in price that I have seen.
    
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Again, mainstream 6-core is already here - the Core i7-970. Pricing may be far from ideal but it's available..
Lol, sorry I missed that portion. $885 is far from the cost of a mainstream cpu, for that price you may as well by the extreme.
What's interesting are the similarities between Kentsfield and Gulftown.
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Originally Posted by rui-no-onna View Post

The introduction of the QX6800 and subsequent release of the Q6700 bumped the price of the Q6600 down to ~$500 and eventually to ~$300. Hopefully, the release of the i7-990X would mean the same thing for the i7-970. If Gulftown follows Kentsfield, we'll eventually get:

i7-990X (or maybe i7-995X?) ~$1000
i7-980 ~$500
i7-970 ~$300

I hope your right. That would be considerably more cost effective.
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Is there precedent for Intel to lower prices on Extreme processors? The 975X hasn't come down in price that I have seen.
Intel never drops the prices on their Extreme Edition CPU. However, since Intel released the Q6700 after the QX6700 was replaced by the QX6800, I'm hoping they'll also release a Core i7-980 (except it'll probably have gimped QPI like the i7-970). It's all just guesswork on my part but it's based on precedent (Kentsfield).
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If AMD can release a six cores on a chipset with FAR less bandwidth than the X58, Intel could easily go 8 core.
I was hoping, when I bought the 1366, it would endure as long as the AM3 socket has. The 1366 was my first Intel system since Pentium II. I got annoyed when AMD went through the socket 939, AM2 then AM3. I got dual core right away with socket 939, felt kind of like I got burnt when 939 went dead so fast, so I waited a litlle, then went Intel soon after 1366 came out, and it looks like the 1366 is not going to be the futureproof socket I thought it was going to be when I bought it.

That being said, I have never had a system as fast as the one I have now. It also looks like, when 6-cores ~do~ come down it will be a significant upgrade when I do finally get one. I'll be good with 1366 for a while methinks.

I'll build an AMD system as a 2nd computer before I upgrade from 1366.


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you obviously don't have a 4GB SQL database in memory. I'm not just talking about gaming. If all you do is mess around and play games all day then sandy bridge or even phenom is fine for you.

The future of 1366 spans into the enterprise market so business applications must be considered. I haven't heard of any sole 1156 server boards, and I'm assuming I won't see any P67 server boards either. They are usually marketed as server/workstation(light load server and workstation)

P67 for any sort of server use is delayed past Q4 2011 anyways. Lots to come.


Yeah but the majority of ocn is gamers. Not someone building a server to run complex databases. So this argument is not valid.
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True, 939 was a dead end, and didn't last long, but the AM2/AM3 change did have the AM2+ stage which lets me run an AM3 chip on the AM2 platform, which is a great feature Intel should really take note of. Plus Bulldozer will initially release for AM3 (as AM3+) which means the AM4 socket should also take AM3 chips (we hope). AMD seems to be working hard on making people have an easier upgrade path.
1366 is just waiting for socket 2011 to die, which is really, really annoying. I keep getting tempted to go Intel, the promise they gave that 1366 would be a long lived platform has been comprehensively broken.
I'm not seeing any features in the new sockets/chips that really demands yet another socket change, come on Intel, you can do better.

But for those with a 1366 rig already, I'm not seeing a real need to shift to the new socket, you may as well stick with what rocks right now.
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Wasn't there a guy on here that already had a 990x build log. (Meaning he had a 990x?)
    
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If the 980x/970 get into the $500 range I"ll buy it first day.
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