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I think this is a bit incorrect. I think we have to be able to separate our products by product lines - AX, HX, and TX can be 50C, GS can be 40C, and CX can be 30C.
For me its not ok. When i buy stereo amplifier Marantz, i dont expect on low entry level one to be rated in peek power in 1 khz just because its entry level. I expect true rating, even if its only 45W (and sony have 150 w).
So, maybe i overrated corsair, maybe its not Marantz among psu (anymore)...
yamaha maybe..
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post #72 of 111
I think this whole situation is being stretched out a little too much. I'm not on either side here, but if you try to give the other side of the story some thought, you see that Corsair didn't really do too much wrong.

CX Series (CX430 in particular):
These are low cost PSUs. The CX400 which preceded it was actually a pretty expensive PSU to manufacture but when it was sold, it was sold at reduced prices. So when you compare a CX430 to a CX400, they seem to be the same price range, but they are in fact not at all. They weren't designed to compete with the big dogs simply because they are far cheaper than a top notch design.

TX Series: Yes, they should have told the consumer that we are switching platforms a little more openly, but it's not like they went from a top of the line Seasonic design and dropped off to a budget HEC design. The fact is, the quality is very much the same and any change in performance should be nominal. It reduces their manufacturing costs.

Corsair has of course made its mistakes but I personally think this has gone too far. Now, just about anyone who reads this post (and a lot of people will), will have doubts about buying a Corsair product. Corsair continues to put out good stuff, though things may be changing.

Well...happy new years everyone.
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post #73 of 111
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Corsair has of course made its mistakes but I personally think this has gone too far.
Agreed.

Though I still stand by my statements regarding the CX430.
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Agreed.

Though I still stand by my statements regarding the CX430.
We all have our opinions. I still don't have the facts straight, so I am giving Corsair the benefit of the doubt.
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Also, on another note. I thought the original TX750 was a CWT design...not Seasonic? Am I wrong?
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post #76 of 111
It is CWT, so is the 850

They changed from CWT PSH to PSHII
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There are tons of reasons to do a full custom loop. One of those reasons is that it's a lot more fun to put together a cool custom watercooling rig with all the components chosen by hand than to install an H50/H70. Also, the full custom rigs are a lot more flexible (add-on reservoirs, radiators, pumps as needed).

But full custom rigs are a lot more expensive than the H50/H70 are. Full custom watercooling rigs aren't the competition for the H50/H70. Aircoolers are.
Sticky this. Hell, put it up on the forum main page. Kids don't seem to realize that at all.
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Alot of other manufacturers post here

EVGA
XFX
Mushkin
Antec

just to name a few
Yeah, and BFG too... oh crap! Nevermind.

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george the problem is corsair goofed up when people had come to trust it with their eyes closed.
The problem lies with the people. IMO anyone who wants to blindly trust a computer component deserves whatever they get.

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And for those concerned with CX430 not putting out 430W, that's completely untrue. It does exactly what's spec'd on the label - at up to 30C temperatures.
I can verify that it indeed does. Don't ask me how... yet...

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Even if the primary side components are capable of it (though they'd appear to be under stress with those ratings) a modern system won't be able to pull 430W from the CX430 because the +12V rectifying component would give out first, if protections didn't kick in to protect it.
Yes, just like any modern system won't be able to pull the entire +12v from a DC-DC PSU with 100% available on +12v.

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Originally Posted by CorsairGeorge View Post
People were stoked about CX400 when the mail-in rebates and instant rebates brought it to $40 or less.
I actually have a CX400 in my garage that cost me $20 after rebate.

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(George, do yourself a favor and be very VERY careful reading any H50 threads... People that have them love em, people that are thinking about getting one or the new H70 and post a question / comparison... well... let me just say some of the full custom w/c loop guys attack and it aint pretty....)
Typical kneejerk reactions of butthurt enthusiasts who are unable to wrap their focused little brains around the fact that not everyone thinks as they do.

You guys ought to see the flame wars in car forums between manual transmission and DSG transmission freaks.

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But full custom rigs are a lot more expensive than the H50/H70 are. Full custom watercooling rigs aren't the competition for the H50/H70. Aircoolers are.
There's actually some overlap. There are some "full custom" kits that are not much more expensive than the H70. For instance there is an XSPC kit that sells for $125 which basically uses off-the-shelf components that you can purchase separately.

Still, I like that Corsair is bringing water cooling to the masses. It's like manual transmission versus DSG all over again. Who cares, when at the end you have a cool running CPU without having to assemble anything, and you are able to select your own gears without pushing a clutch?

I can say this: If I were to buy an all-in-one water cooling kit in the future (which isn't out of the question since I love me some ITX) my next one will likely be a future Corsair.
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(George, do yourself a favor and be very VERY careful reading any H50 threads... People that have them love em, people that are thinking about getting one or the new H70 and post a question / comparison... well... let me just say some of the full custom w/c loop guys attack and it aint pretty....)

Typical kneejerk reactions of butthurt enthusiasts who are unable to wrap their focused little brains around the fact that not everyone thinks as they do.



As far as using the H50, I, and I would bet most people that purchase these units buy it for multiple reasons.

I like the clean look of the install. My case came with a side 230mm fan that limited my choices on after market Air Coolers. I needed something that fit. After considerable research I chose the H50.

On a side note, my brain may be little but it surely isn't focused...
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nice comeback man....
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