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Hello fellow overclockers!

I have recently aqquired a great deal of knowledge regarding "Overclocking", and I have read various guides and seen a great deal of videos regarding the subject. Although, i am still quite a newb at OC'ing and I have a couple of questions too

What i have understood so far is, that to succcesfully overclock my CPU (AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+) I should raise my FSB, because AMD's processors are "Locked at the top". Because my RAM is DDR2 800, I should in theory be able to raise my FSB to the same amount of MHz as the RAM (800/2=400MHz) right? I have no intention of doing this because i assume that my PC wouldn't be able to handle such speeds, and I do not wish to invest in the various coolers you would need to make the CPU kick ass

I have included image of my BIOS screen.

So, having read alot of forums and stuff, I went ahead and tried overclocking. I searched my BIOS for anything having FSB (or HTT, as AMD uses this?) in the text, but failed to find any. After this I navigated to a menu called "Advanced chipset features" (See image 1) and in this, I found a utillity called "CPU frequency" (See image) and it was set to 200. I assumed that this was the right thing to raise, and so I did (to 220), succesfully raising my CPU speed from 2.2 GHz to 2.4 GHz. (Multiplier is 11x if you hadn't figured that out: 11x200=2200, 11x220=2400).

After this "succes" I tried kicking it up another notch (230), but my computer wouldn't start at all (I weren't even able to enter BIOS or SETUP menu), and i read that it could have something to do with my USB inputs??? So i took my USB devices out and in, and I tried every combination possible, and *poof* I was able to enter the BIOS. (I dunno if it was just coincidence or something else, but it worked). So i set it to 220 and ran the computer, but CPU-Z said that my FSB is 200.9??? It was wierd. So some days after this, I tried resetting the value and booting, then upping the value, and i got 2,4 Gigs again. Well anyways, it's working now.
In CPU-Z I noticed the "HT Link" which was 1004,7. That is, almost, excactly 5x the "Cpu Frequency". What is this ?

Now, to the original question (finally). I have seen some videos and "how-to's" and they all point towards the "Frequency/Voltage control" which is not in my BIOS. My Motherboard is NR-M2PV (abit).
As i have found the FSB (or something else) which kicks up my CPU speed, I'm wondering why it is located where it is (Img. 1), why are there so few options regarding the CPU in the submenu, (Img. 1) and do i raise the thing which is the equivalent to FSB, which I should raise to heighten my processor speed, on my motherboard ?
And one final question: Why does this BIOS lack a, in my opinion, menu of this big importance?
If anyone has experience with this type of BIOS, I would be glad if you gave me some information

Help would be much appreciated!
Thanks!
post #2 of 6
The cpu Freq is the fsb basically from what i understand. You wanna try to keep your HT link as close to 2000 Ghz as possible lower the multi if it gets to high.

Also it looks like you described a fsb wall when you couldn't enter BIOS to fix that clear your CMOS and wait about 2 mins should reset everything to default.

you should be able to control your cpu/NB/VDIMM voltage on another drop down menu maybe?
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Your bios seems kind of limited. I have done some looking around and I haven't found much on the MOBO. I dont even see a multiplier setting in there. Generally you should get a screen that looks like this:

Here you can see all the settings and where you would change them, but yours doesn't look so oblivious.

Upgrade?

Open up some more menus and look for the settings for fsb:mem ratio and ht speed and NB speed multipliers. It looks like those might be your limiter since the only thing you can adjust is the core freq.
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May want to check online to see if there is an update for your bios that is more user friendly, though I kind of doubt it.

Honestly, I don't know if I would try to overclock that system as it is, maybe time for an upgrade?

Also, please fill in your system specs.... see "User CP" at the top of the page.
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post #5 of 6
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I have no intentions of upgrading, cus I'm happy enough with my CPU to not waste alot of money for a new one

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Your bios seems kind of limited. I have done some looking around and I haven't found much on the MOBO. I dont even see a multiplier setting in there. Generally you should get a screen that looks like this:
I thought that excact same thing... There was just to much missing. What do you mean by "Upgrade? Open up some more menus and look for the settings for fsb:mem ratio and ht speed and NB speed multipliers." You mean i should upgrade, and then search my BIOS or woot ?

@Deathmaio I have search all the menu. Even the menu, where you can adjust voltage, is locked... There is the options, but they're blue, and there is no option to make them adjustable
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Btw... Do any of you guys know anything about the "PCIE CLock" in my BIOS?
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