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12/31/10 at 11:36am
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or what about graphene heatsinks? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_conductivity
2x the thermal conductivity of diamond, and it's something like 100x stronger than the same thickness of steel. I'm almost sure it costs a few thousand dollars to make a 1 atom thick sheet 2x6 inches or whatever. But if it were to come down in price.. That would be pretty amazing at getting heat to go away from your CPU.
Sorry if this was posted, didn't see it in the search.
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12/31/10 at 11:39am
It would be too costly with today's tech. So no go...
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12/31/10 at 11:41am
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^ Calm now, it's a theory. I was just saying. Also, it's a superconductor I believe so if you used it in CPUs, besides them being even smaller, it would make them cool down a lot better/faster.

Then again, a superconducting thermal paste doesn't seem like the brightest idea.
Edited by The Network - 12/31/10 at 11:47am
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4/24/13 at 10:05am
Actually Graphene Thermal Paste is on the Market and I am onboard and have ordered two tubes of this and when I receive it I will be applying it to see see how well it does. I had to RMA my Corsair Hydro Series H100i.so after all is said and done I will update this post with solid benchmarks and temps and see how it turns out. I recently tried he Indigo Extreme TIM and the first time was horrible. I did not get it to work and the second time it worked well but screwed up my Hydro Series because it has to be burned in at 90 Celsius.
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4/24/13 at 11:49am
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Actually Graphene Thermal Paste is on the Market and I am onboard and have ordered two tubes of this and when I receive it I will be applying it to see see how well it does. I had to RMA my Corsair Hydro Series H100i.so after all is said and done I will update this post with solid benchmarks and temps and see how it turns out. I recently tried he Indigo Extreme TIM and the first time was horrible. I did not get it to work and the second time it worked well but screwed up my Hydro Series because it has to be burned in at 90 Celsius.


Please post a link to it. I want to try it as well. smile.gif
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4/24/13 at 2:29pm
i too, would buy some
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5/2/13 at 3:40am
any news?
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post #9 of 16
5/2/13 at 4:53am
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or what about graphene heatsinks? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_conductivity
2x the thermal conductivity of diamond, and it's something like 100x stronger than the same thickness of steel. I'm almost sure it costs a few thousand dollars to make a 1 atom thick sheet 2x6 inches or whatever. But if it were to come down in price.. That would be pretty amazing at getting heat to go away from your CPU.
Sorry if this was posted, didn't see it in the search.


You're very mistaken on the price of graphene nanopowder. Graphenes molecular design only allows it to transfer heat in a single direction, as opposed to copper which transfers heat in all directions.


Here's a picture of how carbon atoms bond when they form graphene
http://static9.depositphotos.com/1462130/1091/i/950/depositphotos_10917173-Background-of-graphene-molecules.jpg



The way these bond present a very serious flaw if trying to use them for heat spreaders or a heatsink itself. As of now we know no way to make a composite that will cause them to align vertically, as they begin to stack on top of eachother they begin to act as an insulator, and their thermal transfer capabilities decrease.

Now what you're referring to is a single atom layer thick sheet graphene...... This is incredibly expensive as it's difficult to make the atoms bond in this fashion, however there are other ways to produce graphene that aren't nearly expensive, because they're not tying to get a precise sheet of graphene, they're just trying to get whats called a nanopowder.


https://graphene-supermarket.com/Graphene-Nanopowder-10-nm-or-thicker/


As you can see, the stuff isn't nearly that expensive. The smaller the nanopowder you get, the more expensive it is (and the more effective it will be at thermal transfer)
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5/2/13 at 4:56am

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As reported in the January 3, 2012, online edition of Nano Letters
("Graphene-Multilayer Graphene Nanocomposites as Highly Efficient Thermal Interface Materials"), Balandin's Nano-Device Laboratory research group achieved a record enhancement of the thermal conductivity of TIMs by addition of an optimized mixture of graphene and multilayer graphene.

It's in Circulation now.
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