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Im new to the realm of SSD's. I want to reinstall win7 from 32bit to 64bit on my SSD. Ive done a lot of reading about how to reformat and re-install os on an ssd with sandforce and trim such as the one i own. Very confusing:confused:

1. Use HDDErase before re-installing OS?

OR

2. Quick format during Windows 7 re-install?

From what Ive gathered so far, quick format during re-install will be sufficient and will not degrade the ssd's performance because it has TRIM support. Am I understanding this correctly?
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Originally Posted by piranhamoose;11846237 
Im new to the realm of SSD's. I want to reinstall win7 from 32bit to 64bit on my SSD. Ive done a lot of reading about how to reformat and re-install os on an ssd with sandforce and trim such as the one i own. Very confusing:confused:

1. Use HDDErase before re-installing OS?

OR

2. Quick format during Windows 7 re-install?

From what Ive gathered so far, quick format during re-install will be sufficient and will not degrade the ssd's performance because it has TRIM support. Am I understanding this correctly?
I personally feel it's best to keep it simple with these modern SSDs:
  1. Make sure AHCI mode is enabled in the BIOS
  2. Boot from the Windows 7 DVD
  3. When it asks you where you want to install Windows, select the SSD and click the blue text that says "Drive options (advanced)"
  4. This pops down some advanced options. From here, just click Format, and then Next.

Of course, formatting does not touch any of the data. All it does is that it replaces the MFT with a fresh one in the specified format (behind the scenes, the Windows 7 installer always specifies the NTFS format). So, it's like replacing the Table of Contents in a book with a blank one. Well, somewhat. The contents of the book remain the same, except now there's no longer an easy way to navigate the book. If we were not smart human beings, but just dumb computers, then we'd look at that blank Table of Contents and say that it's just a book full of blank pages.

I don't know about anyone else, but I personally feel that the only good time to use something that actually erases the data itself is like when selling the SSD to some random stranger on eBay. redface.gif
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Hdderase will put the ssd back in factory specs. So if it was slow when you had it then i would run it and bring it back to health like it is suppose to be.
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Originally Posted by TwoCables;11846340 
I personally feel it's best to keep it simple with these modern SSDs:
  1. Make sure AHCI mode is enabled in the BIOS
  2. Boot from the Windows 7 DVD
  3. When it asks you where you want to install Windows, select the SSD and click the blue text that says "Drive options (advanced)"
  4. This pops down some advanced options. From here, just click Format, and then Next.

Of course, formatting does not touch any of the data. All it does is that it replaces the MFT with a fresh one in the specified format (behind the scenes, the Windows 7 installer always specifies the NTFS format). So, it's like replacing the Table of Contents in a book with a blank one. Well, somewhat. The contents of the book remain the same, except now there's no longer an easy way to navigate the book. If we were not smart human beings, but just dumb computers, then we'd look at that blank Table of Contents and say that it's just a book full of blank pages.

I don't know about anyone else, but I personally feel that the only good time to use something that actually erases the data itself is like when selling the SSD to some random stranger on eBay. redface.gif

so, just doing a quick format during a re-install will not decrease performance of ssd with sandforce and trim support?
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Originally Posted by piranhamoose;11848430 
so, just doing a quick format during a re-install will not decrease performance of ssd with sandforce and trim support?

Yes, it will decrease performance, you should Secure Erase with HDDErase or something else that can issue the SE command. Might as well start fresh with new OS install.
    
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post #6 of 82
Well you only realistically need hdderase if your ssd speeds have slown down, otherwise with a single ssd drive you can just use windows trim.
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How long does HDDErase take?
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mine took 2 seconds
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I use Parted Magic to erase its's a doddle. DL Parted Magic image burn to a disc, boot to that and a couple of clicks later its done, the actual erase is good too it takes like a second! If you are re-installing windows you may just as well take five mins to secure erase the SSD as is suggested by the manufacturers.....just doing the windows quick format i dunno its like cleaning the car but leaving all the astrays in it full, all the fish n chip papers, drink cans, news papers/mags n other rubbish in the car n wondering why it aint clean lol....
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Originally Posted by $ilent;11849324 
mine took 2 seconds
Then either there was no data, or it was just a standard format. I mean, a standard format doesn't touch the data, it just specifies the format of the drive by replacing the MFT with a fresh one in the specified format.
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