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post #21 of 28
doesn't frys carry the steelseries 6gv2? you might wanna look into that one TC. cherry mx blacks = silent gaming
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You're still crying over this I see. Might want to just get over it - My advice was different to yours, constantly posting arguments about it won't accomplish anything.
Wrong. You told him to ignore me. We don't do that on here, so don't do it again.

And for the last time, you have no leg to stand on because you don't have any experience to back you up. You also lack the knowledge. All you're doing is simply going by a few posts you've seen on here where some people speculated that the Cherry MX Blues might be loud. But I have news for you: I own a quality mechanical keyboard that has the Cherry MX Blues, and they are not "loud" by any means. The keyboard is simply "clicky", and that's it. It is a subtle mechanical click, and nothing else.

But if you want "loud", then look at Buckling Springs. Do you know what Buckling Springs are?

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And, because I prefer to make useful posts, to the OP - Check out some videos on Youtube - that'll give you an idea of the sound and what the keyboard will be like in daily use.
Cute. Now you're just stealing my recommendations. Anyone who frequents the Mechanical Keyboard Guide will be able to tell you that I recommend YouTube for this more frequently than anyone else.

You really are looking for Reps, aren't you?

With a name like "RandomUser", I should just blow you off as some random internet troll. But I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt first.
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post #23 of 28

I'm not trying to start anything, but the Cherry MX Blue keyboards are quite loud compared to normal keyboards if you bottom out.

Which if I do say so myself, is very easy to do. Especially if you're coming from a rubber dome keyboard. Unless you type very lightly and do not bottom out, Cherry MX Blue keyboards are quite loud because not only do you get the little click from the switch, you get a tap from bottoming out right after.

TwoCables, you are very used to typing lightly and not bottoming out, that's probably why you are saying it isn't loud. What I'm about to say is an assumption, but I'm pretty sure most typists bottom out, hence this switch type will be louder for most typists.

I pound the hell out of my keys, this is what me typing sounds like.


The microphone on my camera gives it a deeper sound than you will actually hear if you were to type on one. So keep that in mind.



Now, onto the second subject of this thread, replying to this misinformed noob.
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Avoid Razer for keyboards.

If you want to be cheap and get something that is more about looks and what not silly "gaming" crap, get something from saitek. As far as rubber domes go, they are pretty damn well made.

If you want a GOOD keyboard get a mechanical. NOT a black widdow... its crap. Its a gaming board with distinctly NON gaming features. No NKRO, "wrong" switches, jacks in the worst possible place..... Some other mechanical... too many to tell you which one. You need to give some more info on your prefrences.




Now... you could skip a keyboard and get a good mouse, which if you are gaming is definaitly a bigger deal. Here razer is alright, as is logitech, saitek, and steelseries... really your prefrences are important again.

What is it opposite day or something?

Razer's Blackwidow is extremely well made, way better than any of their other products. Also you're recommending Saitek's rubber domes? This must be some sort of sick joke.

Also wrong switches? That's a personal preference. Take your own advice.

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Now... you could skip a keyboard and get a good mouse, which if you are gaming is definaitly a bigger deal. Here razer is alright, as is logitech, saitek, and steelseries... really your prefrences are important again.
According to you, his "prefrences" aren't exactly important seeing as how you say not to get a Cherry MX Blue keyboard because it's not the "right" switch.

I do agree with you on some things though, they could have placed the jacks in a smarter location, and gave it NKRO, but it is by far not a "crap" keyboard. Especially for the price point it sits at.
Edited by Khaotik55 - 1/2/11 at 12:51am
post #24 of 28
.....not sure about anyone else, but I could fall asleep to that blissful noise in the above video

back to the topic, I would say grab a new mouse they really can affect your game play depending on what your doing. I would not know anything about this though since I use a Logitech Marble Trackball (yet still play RTS, MMO, and FPS well).

good luck

-doober
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post #26 of 28
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I'd take a saitek eclipse over that thing. why? Simply because it's not extremely mushy. I've found with all of logitech's keyboards that they are extremely mushy
with absolutely no tactile response. I used to recommend logi keyboards but after going back to my 4 year old saitek eclipse which has a lot more use then my logitech g110, I've found my saitek is more responsive the keys aren't quite as mushy and i have some tactile response. I can't wait until i get my mech keyboard.
post #27 of 28
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I'm not trying to start anything
Don't worry; you're already handling it way better than RandomUser even at this point in your post.

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but the Cherry MX Blue keyboards are quite loud compared to normal keyboards if you bottom out.
This can apply to almost every mechanical keyboard, clicky or not. Check out videos of people typing on different keyboards, and compare at least a dozen or more videos of people typing on non-clicky boards as well as clicky ones. Many comparisons might leave you wondering which switch they really have.

But regarding bottoming out: it's easy to avoid by raising your wrists in the air so your wrists aren't planted on the wrist rest (or desk). This makes it way easier to type with a lighter touch which makes it way easier to avoid bottoming out which makes all typing noticeably quieter and even soothing to listen to (I'm lookin' at you, Doober! I agree with you!).

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Which if I do say so myself, is very easy to do. Especially if you're coming from a rubber dome keyboard. Unless you type very lightly and do not bottom out, Cherry MX Blue keyboards are quite loud because not only do you get the little click from the switch, you get a tap from bottoming out right after.
With my keyboard, the clacking of bottoming out is louder than the clicking of the switches.

Anyway, it is indeed easy to bottom out at first. I upgraded directly from the Lycosa, and all of my typing at first sounded loud and angry. But now it sounds calm and clicky. But for those of you who still read "clicky" and think of that cheap plastic sound when typing hard on a rubber dome keyboard, it's worth mentioning here that "clicky" is referring to the mechanical click of the switches. It's a precise, and satisfying sound.

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TwoCables, you are very used to typing lightly and not bottoming out, that's probably why you are saying it isn't loud. What I'm about to say is an assumption, but I'm pretty sure most typists bottom out, hence this switch type will be louder for most typists.
I'm saying it isn't loud because to me, it just isn't. To me, "loud" is louder than what I'm hearing right now while I'm typing. Plus, it's not an ugly sound due to the high quality of the keyboard, so that is a tremendous help.

So to me, it's just that it's not quiet, or silent like some rubber dome keyboards can be. But now a loud keyboard would be almost any keyboard with the Buckling Springs. When the springs buckle, they make a click that's so loud that one could almost call it a "clack". Well, almost. I mean, it's certainly not subtle like the Cherry MX Blues!

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I pound the hell out of my keys, this is what me typing sounds like.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXc5bakL86U

The microphone on my camera gives it a deeper sound than you will actually hear if you were to type on one. So keep that in mind.
If you want to stop bottoming out, then try raising your wrists up in the air experimenting with different heights. But now this will only be comfortable if your keyboard is at about elbow height, or belly button height. Otherwise, there's a chance it may not feel natural.

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Now, onto the second subject of this thread, replying to this misinformed noob.



What is it opposite day or something?

Razer's Blackwidow is extremely well made, way better than any of their other products. Also you're recommending Saitek's rubber domes? This must be some sort of sick joke.

Also wrong switches? That's a personal preference. Take your own advice.



According to you, his "prefrences" aren't exactly important seeing as how you say not to get a Cherry MX Blue keyboard because it's not the "right" switch.

I do agree with you on some things though, they could have placed the jacks in a smarter location, and gave it NKRO, but it is by far not a "crap" keyboard. Especially for the price point it sits at.
This.

I mean, there are a few people here on OCN now who own one of the two BlackWidows, and some of the mechanical keyboard enthusiasts here on OCN are surprised by how good this keyboard turned out to be.

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If you strip away all of those features and leave behind just the basic 104-key keyboard, then what you end up with is a cheap $10 rubber dome keyboard. I mean, you can polish a turd, but it will still be just a turd! For this reason, I will only buy mechanical keyboards from now on.
Edited by TwoCables - 1/3/11 at 12:13am
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post #28 of 28
If you can't afford a mechanical keyboard, then go for a mouse. I own 2 mechanical keyboards and owned quite a few rubber dome. The mechanical keyboards last longer and for me at least are a better experience to use, but don't take my word for it, look at the Mechanical Keyboard thread and read for yourself on the multiple impressions people have on different switches and brands.

A mechanical keyboard is more of an investment instead of "another keyboard" because it will outlast all your computer components besides your case I have a mechanical keyboard from the 80s and it works as good as the day my dad got it when he was younger...
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