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Sorry if anybody of you gets annoyed xD


So basically, I need you folks to convince me why I should install Ubuntu.

I have the installer burned on a CD, and I could just do it right now but I'm having second thoughts.


First of all:
I surf the net (45% of the time)
I listen to music (Happens simultaneously)
I watch movies (25%)
BOINC (happens simultaneously)
I watch videos online(15%)
I go to OCN (A LOT, Happens simultaneously)
I play runescape (10%)
I play games on my PC too (but not much now, about 5% of the time, last game I PLAYED was Bioshock, which I bought from someone in exchange for a 2-day tutorial on basic trigonometry).


I have a 250gb drive with 2 partitions.

C: (the one with windows 7 on it, and where I install all my programs) has 40gb free.

D: (has everything else) has 35gb free. But I could knock off 10gb+ if I wanted to.


If I do decide to install Ubuntu, how would it affect my PC life? And would it be easy to remove and go back to Windows?



PS: Please convince me, PLEASE
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Well it's no harder to remove than windows, just delete the partition and re-expand the old one. Some games work in wine, stuff like Bioshock works very well.

http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManage...rsion&iId=9320

I play Counter-Strike:Source all the time, really almost all source games work 100%. Other than that there is no real difference with Linux outside of it being free, and a lot of the applications/programs are free. I think it's faster and smoother, a much better feel and uses 1/2 the memory even with FF eating 400MB. Ummm, you can tweak anything you want, have good desktop effects. I'm not going to say it's for you but you might as well give it a try, just give it like 20G and you should be good. If you need downloads you can easily mount and use your NTFS partitions, I do all the time. In fact my 76G of music is on an NTFS drive. So what do you have to lose?

Just for convenience even though you don't have to as you can choose where Grub installs I'd still unplug the W7 drive. I do it just in case user error happens, even with all my years mistakes still happen.
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Just for convenience even though you don't have to as you can choose where Grub installs I'd still unplug the W7 drive. I do it just in case user error happens, even with all my years mistakes still happen.
Wow. Thanks for that.

Unplug the W7 drive? But I only have 1 hard drive

And how about my drivers? What about those? Mobo driver? GPU driver (I think Nvidia has Linux support though)?

Are there any other things I'm supposed to worry about?
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I always have mixed feelings about "convincing" someone to do something like this... there are many ways to try Ubuntu (and indeed any Linux distro) without inconveniencing your current PC setup... you can run it in Live mode by just booting from the CD and clicking "Try it"... or you can run it via virtualisation... Virtualbox makes it so simple... then you can always go for a duel boot option... this is not that difficult but you should make sure you know what you are doing or you may mess up (some thought and planning involved)...

IMO try it the other ways first, then if you are still convinced you want more, go duel boot (and of course later you could forgo Windows completely)...

Just my 2c worth...
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For your uses, Linux could work very well. If you play games uncommonly or only a few games that run well under WINE, you should be fine. Worst case scenario, you can reboot to Windows - which is fine, since you don't play all that often.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tryagainplss View Post
Sorry if anybody of you gets annoyed xD
np at all, I'll try and help out - but don't get annoyed at my reply

And sorry for taking your quote out of order - but the following needs to be replied to first to save you time.
Quote:
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I play games on my PC too (but not much now, about 5% of the time, last game I PLAYED was Bioshock, which I bought from someone in exchange for a 2-day tutorial on basic trigonometry).
As much as I love GNU/Linux, I have to say that if you play games released for MS Windows, even if only 5%, then don't install GNU/Linux.

You'll end up hating GNU/Linux because you'll waste countless days of your life trying to get a game designed for a totally different OS playing in GNU/Linux, and that is not really fair.

If you can forgo those games, or are happy to dual boot for that 5% of game playing, then definitely give GNU/Linux a go, as I am sure you'll be delighted with just how usable it is these days.

Just don't expect it to do things that is has not been designed for or has not been supported for and you'll have a great time and be left with a much better impression

Quote:
Originally Posted by tryagainplss View Post
So basically, I need you folks to convince me why I should install Ubuntu.
Also, I fkn hate Ubuntu with a vengence - my advice is to install OpenSuse or Fedora, and leave Ubuntu to die

Now for the help
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First of all:
I surf the net (45% of the time)
Most GNU/Linux distros come with Firefox by default - if they don't have Firefox, they will have another capable web browser.

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I listen to music (Happens simultaneously)
The "right" program really depends on the music you are listening too, as there are generally better programs for specific tasks, like listening top a CD, or listening to streaming music, or listening to mp3's etc.

However, a decent all-in-one "media player" style program is Banshee. It is actually more of an "itunes" replacement then "media player" clone. It can rip your CDs, sync your ipod, play podcasts and streams, order your music and playlists etc.

I also like Amarok, which is very similar in function to Banshee, but differently styled and has several different "features" that I like

If you want something lite and simple, like winamp for example, then XMMS is for you. It is basically winamp for GNU/Linux.

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I watch movies (25%)
Again, depends on what type - straight from DVD or downloaded mpg, avi etc?

For DVD, I like Xine. It is very similar to the many different DVD players in Windows - so is pretty easy to use

For watching mpg, avi etc, I also use Xine, but for the odd movie format that Xine doesn't support, I'll use mplayer.

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BOINC (happens simultaneously)
BOINC has a GNU/Linux client/manager.

First you need to ensure your AMD/Nvidia GPU driver is installed and working properly, but after that it is pretty much a simple command to install BOINC and a few edits to get your projects up and running (see here).

Quote:
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I watch videos online(15%)
I assume they are Flash based? If so, as long as Firefox is installed, and you have the latest flash plugin, then you should have no problems.

Saying that, making sure you have the latest flash version can be a pain in some GNU/Linux distros - stick with the better known ones and you'll be fine

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I go to OCN (A LOT, Happens simultaneously)
Again, Firefox should be installed, so you won;t have any prblems browsing the web or visitng OCN

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Originally Posted by tryagainplss View Post
I play runescape (10%)
Last time I played Runescape it was a flash game played in your browser (that was many years ago now, so forgive me if it is different now) - so as per my comment regarding watching online movies, if you have the latest Flash plugin installed in your Firefox browser, you should not have any problems.

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I have a 250gb drive with 2 partitions.

C: (the one with windows 7 on it, and where I install all my programs) has 40gb free.

D: (has everything else) has 35gb free. But I could knock off 10gb+ if I wanted to.
Windows 7 includes a free partition manager. In the search box type:
partition

Then you should see a link called "Create and format hard disk partitions" - click it, and then "shrink" your "D" partition so you have 20GB of empty space left over.

Now you can select the empty space while installing your GNU/Linux distro

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Originally Posted by tryagainplss View Post
If I do decide to install Ubuntu, how would it affect my PC life? And would it be easy to remove and go back to Windows?
First - don;t install Ubuntu, try OpenSuse or Fedora

Second - it will have no greater effect on PC life then Windows would.

Quote:
Originally Posted by tryagainplss View Post
PS: Please convince me, PLEASE
If you need to be convinced to use it, you won't like it and you'll find some reason to hate it.

If you are willing to try it on your own, and don't expect it to do things that are not supported, then you'll almost certainly enjoy the experience.

So no, I won't convince you
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Here is my opinion on your 5% of gaming time. ITS ONLY 5%.

I'd say you can put reasonable effort into trying to get the game running on Linux but if it don't work just drop it in favor of Linux. Don't let that 5% get in the way of you possibly discovering a whole new way to use your PC not to mention freeing yourself from proprietary chains. Again this is my opinion.
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Wow.... You guys are just awesome...

Sorry to some, but I'm still going for Ubuntu, I chose it cause I kinda know someone who's part of it.

I can sacrifice the 5% gaming. If I feel like playing, I'll just boot on windows.
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So... Do I need to shrink my ( D: ) partition first, so I can create a 20gb partition (which will be the third partition)before installing Ubuntu?

Or will ubuntu create a 20gb partition from my ( D: ) and install itself there?
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lol I wasn't paying attention and didn't notice you only had the 250G. =P It was like 4am or so. =P Just ignore that then, your going to have to run fixmbr/repair when you want to remove grub.
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