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post #21 of 79
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Originally Posted by Infernosaint View Post
Make the chips tougher, so we can push higher voltages, we'll MAKE aftermarket cooling needed.
That would be good
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post #22 of 79
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Originally Posted by victorofhavoc View Post
So, I read from ACMtechnews taht sandy bridge is the new processor line where the gpu is built into the processor. sandy brdige seems to be a low end user's cpu...like gpu built into motherboards but in this case closer to the processor so the video performance can increase because data doesn't travel far

my issue with all this is that yeah you're pushing 5.2 GHz, but who cares if half of that is being thrown onto the gpu?

anybody follow?
It is IN the proc itself.

And no, it won't reduce the speed by using the IGP. In fact, you can turn it off in BIOS from what I've read and lower your TDP even further.
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post #23 of 79
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If you can get to 5.2 with the stock one, why not put an aftermarket heatsink and push it to 5.7. There will always be a need for aftermarket heatsinks.
The sandy bridge will only overclock so far, in most of the testing I've read about from extreme overclockers it will reach it's maximum possible frequency on air or water. In the OP the chip reached 5.2Ghz on air, maximum it can reach on water is probably 5.2Ghz, & the max on liquid nitrogen would be about 5.2Ghz (if it even booted cold).
There aren't many out yet, so some chips may hit 5.3 or 5.4, & then some may only be able to get to 4.8 etc.
I'n not bashing SB or anything, 5.2Ghz on air is exciting, but don't get to thinking 'if it can do 5.2 on air imagine what it can do on water'...
    
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post #24 of 79
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Originally Posted by victorofhavoc View Post
my issue with all this is that yeah you're pushing 5.2 GHz, but who cares if half of that is being thrown onto the gpu?
The GPU has a different multiplier from the CPU. The 5.2 GHz oc from the article really does mean the CPU is running at 5.2 GHz. Besides, on a P67 motherboard, the GPU is disabled.
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post #25 of 79
somehow i dont think that will kill off aftermarket coolers. if you can be full load @68C @5.2GHz, then someone will want to get it to 50C at that speed. only way to do that is with a better cooler.......
post #26 of 79
I think another important thing people are forgetting is these are mainstream processors. Enthusiast products are bound to require better cooling particularly when they've got 8~16 cores. Future high-end products will probably remain at the same TDP as current high-end products. They'll just have better efficiency (higher performance/watt).
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post #27 of 79
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Originally Posted by Klinkey View Post
I agree, by the time ivy bridge comes along with 22nm tech there wont be need for aftermarket cooling, whatever is after ivy bridge probably wont even need a fan. wow
I doubt it. They are still increasing transistor counts and if Bulldozer is competitive they'll start pushing clock speeds as high as they can and be stable to still have the fastest product.

The other thing this guy doesn't take into account are the people who want silent or near silent performance machines.
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Whoever wrote that article is a liar.

I can do 5.2ghz easy, but not even with a hyper 212+ in IBT it was pushing 100C+ and throttling, so yes at idle the CPU consumes 20 watts and at load 95 watts but it can exceed TDP for a long time, so yea you can but you wont be at 5.2ghz in anything you are doing.
    
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post #29 of 79
It won't kill aftermarket cooling

If someone is doing 5.2 at 68 then someone will want to do it under 60

with any overclock...you either run out of voltage or temp's get too high.

So basically, they are saying temps will not get nuts, but voltage will begin to approach and unsafe point. Fine, future overclocks are only limited by voltage, I'll still be running an after market CPU cooler for cooler temps
    
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post #30 of 79
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Originally Posted by FtW 420 View Post
The sandy bridge will only overclock so far, in most of the testing I've read about from extreme overclockers it will reach it's maximum possible frequency on air or water. In the OP the chip reached 5.2Ghz on air, maximum it can reach on water is probably 5.2Ghz, & the max on liquid nitrogen would be about 5.2Ghz (if it even booted cold).
There aren't many out yet, so some chips may hit 5.3 or 5.4, & then some may only be able to get to 4.8 etc.
I'n not bashing SB or anything, 5.2Ghz on air is exciting, but don't get to thinking 'if it can do 5.2 on air imagine what it can do on water'...
Why is that? Did they run out of multipliers or was there a vcore limit?

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Originally Posted by Sin0822 View Post
Whoever wrote that article is a liar.

I can do 5.2ghz easy, but not even with a hyper 212+ in IBT it was pushing 100C+ and throttling, so yes at idle the CPU consumes 20 watts and at load 95 watts but it can exceed TDP for a long time, so yea you can but you wont be at 5.2ghz in anything you are doing.
While I don't think he was lying, he definitely didn't have it under load, which is a pretty big detail he left out.
 
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