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As the author of that article and longtime support or OCN, I'm a little surprised at the (offsite) comments. But then again, maybe I shouldn't be.



There was a link to an actual screenshot in the article.



I've got four P67 motherboards all running AIDA64 beta made just for Sandy Bridge. I'm pretty sure I know what I'm doing.



Um, I was there along with 14 other media guests, in addition to all the ASUS and Intel staff. Plenty of photos were taken, and plenty of info will be avialable after the NDA lifts. Where were you at this event?



Thanks for listing the source, which allows others to actually read what I said. As it turns out, I was correct: Desktop PC Platform: Statistical Obituary. Desktop sales (which is not just personal desktops, but also servers and professional workstations) was surpassed by notebooks that year, and continues to decline.

As for GPUs, they weren't part of the discussion. If you had read the article, it was all about the CPU cooler aftermarket.

I did read the article, thank you very much, both of them when last I checked. While controversial titles may get you reads, I can't help but think that making claims like the end of aftermarket cooling, and the end of the era of desktops, will sit well with overclockers. It doesn't even matter if you are right, which, to some degree, I must acquiesce you are indeed. However, this argument sprung up on a forum of OVERCLOCKERS. Overclockers typically don't have a rational reason to go out and void their warranties to make their CPUs run screaming fast. Overclocking is more or less an irrational activity. I mean, I like my aftermarket cooler. Aftermarket coolers look awesome, and help me squeeze out better performance. If I got a SB chip, I would still get the best aftermarket cooler I could find. Why? Because I like it, of course! It isn't rational, but, like I said, you cannot pose a rational argument to such an irrational activity, and expect to get far.

Just IMO, I'm sure that casual users were downright thrilled to see this article. But this was to be expected here. What do you think Ferrari owners would say if they found out that the new models of Ferrari were going to have fully electric engines that were quiet as church mice? Well, if they were part of a community like this, the reaction would probably be very much the same as ours to this article. Don't worry about our reaction too much- the vast majority of PC users don't overclock, which tells me that in all likelihood, the vast majority of PC users were happy to see your article. Of course, to back this up, you could simply post a poll, to gather a figure to see approximately what percentage of your reader base overclocks.

EDIT: I see you are of the same opinion, at least to a degree, as you've strapped a Megahalems to your 2600k
    
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Um, I was there along with 14 other media guests, in addition to all the ASUS and Intel staff. Plenty of photos were taken, and plenty of info will be avialable after the NDA lifts. Where were you at this event?


I am sorry but I have 3 boards and 4 cpus, and all act the same. Wait until release I am sure normal consumers will see the same type of heat, try running IBT which most Overclockers will do, and see. You need to have a screen of CPU-Z up to monitor frequency.
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I am sorry but I have 3 boards and 4 cpus, and all act the same. Wait until release I am sure normal consumers will see the same type of heat, try running IBT which most Overclockers will do, and see. You need to have a screen of CPU-Z up to monitor frequency.
You have three P67 motherboards and 4 Sandy Bridge CPUs ahead of launch? I somehow doubt that.

By the way, I've already pointed out how there was a screenshot in the article... CPU-Z and all.
    
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You have three P67 motherboards and 4 Sandy Bridge CPUs ahead of launch? I somehow doubt that.

By the way, I've already pointed out how there was a screenshot in the article... CPU-Z and all.
Plenty of people have them already. What makes you think you could get your hands on one but others couldn't? Some retailers are already selling them.
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Plenty of people have them already. What makes you think you could get your hands on one but others couldn't? Some retailers are already selling them.
Why don't you link to these retailers who are already selling Sandy Bridge processors. Listing 'for sale' and delivering product are two different things. I operate a large review website that has direct support from Intel, and I'm certain that retailers haven't started shipping (or receiving) these CPUs yet. That's how.
    
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Now, now children.. play nice.

    
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Interesting thread nothing wrong with a more efficient and cooler running proc. especially for something like Folding@home, WCG, or Rosetta (24/7 100% load). I've got quite a few nice coolers for my hot running Bloomfields and I'm sure they will all work just fine when I get a 2600K.
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Why don't you link to these retailers who are already selling Sandy Bridge processors. Listing 'for sale' and delivering product are two different things. I operate a large review website that has direct support from Intel, and I'm certain that retailers haven't started shipping (or receiving) these CPUs yet. That's how.
No one said bought any processors. Why do you think I am not posting a screen shot. FYI in malaysia they have them for sale, anyone can buy them. They are on Ebay and so on and so forth. USA NDA is not like other countries, wake up.

WHy don't you check out my review on my p67a-ud7 in my signature.

i do think the stock intel cooler will do very well, as 3 heatpipes is all the CPu has area for. IDk at over 1.5v i haven't talked to anyone who is able to run IBT and not throttle unless they ahve a really nice heatsink,.

Edit: I downloaded AIDA64 as it is just like Everest.. AIDA is no show of stability, sorry. My Hyper 212 can handle max oc with it. IBT is a real stability tester that all of us here use. no IBT we don't care how damn higher your OC is, its just not stable, its not XS we don't just run benchmarks.
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Originally Posted by Das Capitolin View Post
Why don't you link to these retailers who are already selling Sandy Bridge processors. Listing 'for sale' and delivering product are two different things. I operate a large review website that has direct support from Intel, and I'm certain that retailers haven't started shipping (or receiving) these CPUs yet. That's how.
Plenty of people im canada and i think germany are able to purchase chips already. If you would check the main sandy bridge thread there are even posts w/ personal benchmark screenies in them.
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