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I recently overclocked my AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ 2,2 GHz to 2,4 GHz, by raising the FSB. I have done nothing else.

Now, when running Windows experience index and various benchmark tests, my gaming performance has decreased... What's the problem ?

Thanks!
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My guess is the oc is unstable. Did you find any settings for nb multiplier or the ht multiplier? Chances are that the higher freq on the core clock has your other speeds where they are unstable and therefore when you benchmark it is encountering errors that are decreasing your score. Plus as small of an increase as you had your really not going to see any noteable gains.
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hehe I mostly tried overclocking because, there's alot of games that has minimum requirements of 2.4 gigs But thanks for the help anyway
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ht multiplier.
That's probably his problem right there, since higher ht usually leads to poorer performance. OP, check you ht multiplier and make sure your running around 2000.
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Sometimes you may have to fiddle around with the FSB along with the multiplier. I use to run a 4200+ and I world get 2.7GHz by going 11x multi and a 245 FSB and changed the vcore to 1.45v. I think this combo gave me a HT of a little over 2000, which is where you want to be. You most likely will not be able to reach those speeds or use this voltage because I was running that with watercooling, but you can get fairly close. In addition, I had the socket 939 version of the 4200+, not the socket AM2 version. Which one are you running?

Please fill out your system specs under "User CP" at the top of the screen. This will help us greatly in getting you running better. I think with some tweaking and a good CPU cooler you can get 2.5 to 2.6 without breaking a sweat and having to get really in-depth.

Also be sure to only make settings changes using the BIOS. Do not trust any OS-level software overclocking.
Edited by PhillyOverclocker - 1/1/11 at 8:22am
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Hey, Thanks PhillyOverclocker, gonna fill em' in now
Really, my biggest problem right now is my motherboard, which i believe is seriously outdated or just limited... The only menu i can find that has anything to do with OC'ing other than voltage control is the one you can see in my other post (Img) http://www.overclock.net/amd-cpus/90...ocing-amd.html
There is next to no other options in my BIOS.
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That's probably his problem right there, since higher ht usually leads to poorer performance. OP, check you ht multiplier and make sure your running around 2000.
My "HT" (believe its the "HT link" in Cpu-Z?) is much lower than 2000, its rather around the 1040 or something...
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Hey, Thanks PhillyOverclocker, gonna fill em' in now
Really, my biggest problem right now is my motherboard, which i believe is seriously outdated or just limited... The only menu i can find that has anything to do with OC'ing other than voltage control is the one you can see in my other post (Img) http://www.overclock.net/amd-cpus/90...ocing-amd.html
There is next to no other options in my BIOS.

My "HT" (believe its the "HT link" in Cpu-Z?) is much lower than 2000, its rather around the 1040 or something...
Yeah its' HT link in Cpu-z. And don't bother with the Windows Experience thing. It gives inconsistent results across platforms. Let's just get the thing overclocked and stable before really checking the performance increase.

What are your multiplier and voltages set to? I can tell you are running the AM2 4400+ cause you have DDR2 memory.

EDIT: Also a great guide to AM2 overclocking is here. You have some knowledge, but more never hurts.
Edited by PhillyOverclocker - 1/1/11 at 8:33am
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post #8 of 32
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Thanks man

My multiplier is set to 11x, says itself, when my default speed is 2,2 and def FSB is 200 Checked CPU-z, it says 11x too.

I'm not running 4400+ , im running 4200+ as i wrote ?

I filled in a bunch of the specs, but im cant seem to find the rest And where should i find the Voltages?

Ohh... Saw the guide, says ill have to look at CPU-Z--- The core voltage is 1.296
Edited by BoobHunter - 1/1/11 at 8:53am
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Thanks man

My multiplier is set to 11x, says itself, when my default speed is 2,2 and def FSB is 200 Checked CPU-z, it says 11x too.

I'm not running 4400+ , im running 4200+ as i wrote ?

I filled in a bunch of the specs, but im cant seem to find the rest And where should i find the Voltages?

Ohh... Saw the guide, says ill have to look at CPU-Z--- The core voltage is 1.296
Sorry, I meant 4200+. I have owned and overclocked them both back in the day.

You will need to up your voltage to get any sort of better speed most likely. How much voltage is largely dependent on how well your cooling soultion is, as more voltage leads to higher temps. For now even with a stock cooler you can bump your voltage up to 1.35 or 1.375 and you should maintain good temps. But always remember to monitor them when you first boot back into windows.

I personally would put the voltage at 1.375, go to 11.5 multi and 210MHz FSB and see where it gets you. ( ~2.4GHz) If you can stress the CPU with Prime95 (or the stress test of your choice) for a few hours, then continue the FSB up 5MHz at a time untill you become unstable. Next, find out if the instability is resulting from temps or lack of voltage and adjust accordingly.

Again, remember not to make any big changes too quick and watch your temperatures. I always use multiple monitoring programs when experimenting because you never know when that one program will have some stupid glitch and give bad readings. I like to use HWMonitor, Speedfan, and Coretemp.

EDIT: Overclocking is always a nice way to give your entire system a power boost for free or cheap, but in your case I would definitely say a graphics card update would benefit you far more than even a maximum overclock on that chip, especially for gaming. Any games in particular you would like to play better?
Edited by PhillyOverclocker - 1/1/11 at 12:59pm
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post #10 of 32
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I see what you mean... But really, i have no intentions of buying anything new

Firstly... My BIOS is ***ed up... I do not have the conventional options... Please see the link i posted in a previous comment.

Second... My processor is not black edition, i cannot up the multiplier, i have to up the fsb.

I have recently (5 mins ago) tried upping the FSB with 1 MHz... Either my mobo is one of the cheapest pieces of **** in this world, or there's something i've missed, because just by raising the FSB with 1 causes my system to get buggy, not even POSTing. My computer is now running with 221 but i restarted several times and rearranged my USB devices to get it started I will try doing what you said (Rasiing the voltage) and see what happens.

Thanks for the help

EDIT: I'm mostly playing MW2, though right now, i'm playing Dragon Age Origins, and its not performing as well as i would like
Edited by BoobHunter - 1/1/11 at 1:34pm
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