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What's with all the backlit mechanicals using blues? They're loud(er), and the release point is above the actuation point.

I would buy one in a heartbeat if they came with browns.
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Originally Posted by Kaldari View Post
What's with all the backlit mechanicals using blues? They're loud(er), and the release point is above the actuation point.

I would buy one in a heartbeat if they came with browns.
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I think the new Razer keyboard is mechanic. But I'm not sure if it's good.
The BlackWidow has serious KRO issues. Several keys don't work with KRO at all (I, comes to mind, if i recall it doesn't transmit if any other key is depressed at that time). Razer has an "optimized" key matrix, which is some marketing bull ***** that basically means 'we took as many shortcut as we could to get this keyboard to market, especially when all our competitors in the market we're trying to enter don't take those shortcuts'. The result? A keyboard that's all show and no go. Several keys in the "gaming cluster" (left hand side of the board more or less for most users) also had kro issues.

Basically, if you're a fast pased fps or rts gamer this keyboard will ruin you... but...


The deck keyboard if I recall was pretty good but the last time I used it was under different circumstances and I am not sure about it's KRO abilities, which are very important for typists of sufficient speed and gamers alike. BUT, the deck legend was the first thing to come to mind as the keys are relatively quiet (not silent but no louder than a membrane most times), it's mechanical in all but it's feel (deep key press, very linear in feel almost no feedback), and it has blue backlighting and if I recall, dual shot injected key caps, which will NEVER wear out.

The legend uses mx blacks by cherry, so the feel is identical to the das keyboard silent.

As long as it supports a decent amount of rollover (with ps2 it's n, with usb it's ???). Were I to guess they probably have a really good rollover system in the keyboard. Anything more than 6 in my use is a waste but that isn't to say others wouldn't want such a feature. :O
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The BlackWidow has serious KRO issues. Several keys don't work with KRO at all (I, comes to mind, if i recall it doesn't transmit if any other key is depressed at that time). Razer has an "optimized" key matrix, which is some marketing bull ***** that basically means 'we took as many shortcut as we could to get this keyboard to market, especially when all our competitors in the market we're trying to enter don't take those shortcuts'. The result? A keyboard that's all show and no go. Several keys in the "gaming cluster" (left hand side of the board more or less for most users) also had kro issues.

Basically, if you're a fast pased fps or rts gamer this keyboard will ruin you... but...


The deck keyboard if I recall was pretty good but the last time I used it was under different circumstances and I am not sure about it's KRO abilities, which are very important for typists of sufficient speed and gamers alike. BUT, the deck legend was the first thing to come to mind as the keys are relatively quiet (not silent but no louder than a membrane most times), it's mechanical in all but it's feel (deep key press, very linear in feel almost no feedback), and it has blue backlighting and if I recall, dual shot injected key caps, which will NEVER wear out.

The legend uses mx blacks by cherry, so the feel is identical to the das keyboard silent.

As long as it supports a decent amount of rollover (with ps2 it's n, with usb it's ???). Were I to guess they probably have a really good rollover system in the keyboard. Anything more than 6 in my use is a waste but that isn't to say others wouldn't want such a feature. :O
Have you personally used the BlackWidow?

Because I own a BlackWidow, and for the price I paid for it, it is stellar!

Not to mention, I have experienced no roll over issues whatsoever and I'm a pretty fast-paced gamer with quick movements in all the FPS that I play.

In fact, in going from my BW back to my Logitech Illuminated keyboard, I have noticed how much faster the BW has allowed me to be due to how quickly the keys respond and snap back into position. The keys are also very light and don't tire my hand after hours of gaming.

I don't know what kind of wacky stuff people are trying to do on the keyboard to encounter blocked keys, but I have never had an issue.
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The BlackWidow has serious KRO issues. Several keys don't work with KRO at all (I, comes to mind, if i recall it doesn't transmit if any other key is depressed at that time). Razer has an "optimized" key matrix, which is some marketing bull ***** that basically means 'we took as many shortcut as we could to get this keyboard to market, especially when all our competitors in the market we're trying to enter don't take those shortcuts'. The result? A keyboard that's all show and no go. Several keys in the "gaming cluster" (left hand side of the board more or less for most users) also had kro issues.

Basically, if you're a fast pased fps or rts gamer this keyboard will ruin you... but...


The deck keyboard if I recall was pretty good but the last time I used it was under different circumstances and I am not sure about it's KRO abilities, which are very important for typists of sufficient speed and gamers alike. BUT, the deck legend was the first thing to come to mind as the keys are relatively quiet (not silent but no louder than a membrane most times), it's mechanical in all but it's feel (deep key press, very linear in feel almost no feedback), and it has blue backlighting and if I recall, dual shot injected key caps, which will NEVER wear out.

The legend uses mx blacks by cherry, so the feel is identical to the das keyboard silent.

As long as it supports a decent amount of rollover (with ps2 it's n, with usb it's ???). Were I to guess they probably have a really good rollover system in the keyboard. Anything more than 6 in my use is a waste but that isn't to say others wouldn't want such a feature. :O
That is the only reason I won't buy that KB. I want at least 6-key rollover as I would use USB.
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The legend uses mx blacks by cherry, so the feel is identical to the das keyboard silent.

As long as it supports a decent amount of rollover (with ps2 it's n, with usb it's ???). Were I to guess they probably have a really good rollover system in the keyboard. Anything more than 6 in my use is a waste but that isn't to say others wouldn't want such a feature. :O
I think you're thinking of the tactile legend keyboards, which use clears, and are very similar to the browns, but a little stiffer. The blacks are noticeably different then the browns, as there is no tactile feedback at all.

Also please note that all the mechanical keyboards mentioned are not "silent", and will be at least a little bit louder then your old logitech. That's why I don't like the term "silent" being associated with browns or blacks, as the end result is usually still louder then a rubber dome board.
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Have you personally used the BlackWidow?

Because I own a BlackWidow, and for the price I paid for it, it is stellar!

Not to mention, I have experienced no roll over issues whatsoever and I'm a pretty fast-paced gamer with quick movements in all the FPS that I play.

In fact, in going from my BW back to my Logitech Illuminated keyboard, I have noticed how much faster the BW has allowed me to be due to how quickly the keys respond and snap back into position. The keys are also very light and don't tire my hand after hours of gaming.

I don't know what kind of wacky stuff people are trying to do on the keyboard to encounter blocked keys, but I have never had an issue.
Yes. I do. And it's an expectation of quality. Rosewill's keyboard is better for crying out loud... how does a RAZER (a gaming brand ) gaming keyboard NOT outperform a typists keyboard using the same key switches at a similar price? I won't support that kind of corner cutting and low quality production. Razer spoon feeds newbs crappy hardware becuase they can. I take personal offense to that because I KNOW razer can do better. Their mice are proof of this (I am a stalwart fan of the lachesis, especially the V2)... and yet they insist on making 5.1 headsets, crappy keyboards that don't even have 5-6 key roll over and other such nonsense and garbage. If you can't understand why these things are offensive, you either aren't attuned enough to the equipment in question, or aren't good enough to take advantage of it.

I also have a das keyboard professional (non s) which is amazing, and one of the best I've used but I still disapprove of the key switch choice for gaming. That was the first BS I called on razer because the "click" comes after and before the actuation (respectively). But blues are still pretty good and I'll take a keyboard with blues and good roll over over most of the garbage out there. What that means, is you can feel the click without the keyboard letting go of the key. This is most notice-able in double jumping if you try to use the keyboard without fulling actuating. It's doable, but I will say it's not really a notice-able issue.

I also have an ABS M1 which is the worst piece of garbage I've ever used. Membrane is better. The key caps wiggle like a mofo, and they're hard to depress which basically means you'll miss key strokes because the key caps moved on you. Also, they make an ungodly amount of noise for no real reason. HOWEVER, it appears there is a mod for this and I will be trying it sunday. It's a shame they're no longer in manuf because if this mod makes it better, then well... jeez! still, only 3kro, and I know even if it was less clicky and more linear feeling I doubt it'd be great.

Basically... I have higher standards for keyboards. The Das Keyboard from about 2 gens ago is so far the best I've used. It's got everything I'd want in a USB keyboard. I really came to expect more from the razer but it's sitting in it's box awaiting RMA. =(


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I think you're thinking of the tactile legend keyboards, which use clears, and are very similar to the browns, but a little stiffer. The blacks are noticeably different then the browns, as there is no tactile feedback at all.

Also please note that all the mechanical keyboards mentioned are not "silent", and will be at least a little bit louder then your old logitech. That's why I don't like the term "silent" being associated with browns or blacks, as the end result is usually still louder then a rubber dome board.
LOL, I mixed up the key switches. Thought there were blacks in the silent. The deck I have access to (don't own, belongs to a friend) is very linear in feel, no click feeling to it really. I'm pretty sure it's the blacks and the linear version, not the tactile.

And to that end, the deck I have access to is the quietest mechanical I know of. It's very quiet and doesn't feel mechanical even... but it's a very rugged sturdy piece of equipment.
Edited by aynjell - 1/5/11 at 10:46pm
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