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I am going to get one of these two and I see some overlap. My main goal in buying one is firewall and DMZ for a web site, next would be some "hands on" with CISCO products. 5505 is a bit cheaper (30.00) I find the 520 more suited for home use but I am finding a lot more documentation about how to work with the 5505. I have some books comming about the 5505 and some classes starting in Spring (in january). I am not pressed for time, just gathering up info. Lots of info out there but some actually want to charge to talk about the products. I really like the dual WAN on the 520 but I will need a switch if I get the 520. CISCO managed switches are just as expensive as the security devices.

I have been looking over the 815 home router and it has a lot of interesting features i would like to play with, any feedback.
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The PIX is all outdated but still works fine for hardware firewall. The ASA's are the replacement and are much, much nicer! If you can afford the 5505 go for it, if not the PIX will work just fine. IF you plan on going down the Cisco + Security tracks you'll only see ASA's, they have fazed out all of the PIX's from their tests.

The 800 series routers are pretty awesome.. The 815 is a bit old, you can get a nice non-wifi 851 or 871 that will give you all the firewall features of the older PIX's. The 871 supports ospf and eigrp, where the < 851 only support rip. Not that it will matter for what you want it for! smile.gif
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scott, I conclude if I want to work with gear that is both "new" in CISCO's eyes and on the tests I should go with the 5505. Why do you suppose the 520 is retailing for more than the 5505 (420 vrs 392,same vendor). I now can understand why I see more documentation available for the 5505 as it is more current. I had no idea that the 815 is considered old. thanks + rep
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I'm sorry I was thinking you were talking about the 500 series PIX vs ASA's. Your talking about the Cisco 520 router aren't you?
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Yes I was,CISCO lists the 520 under their "home' products.
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If you're looking specifically for an anti-x network device the ASA hands down. If you want an all in one to learn the IOS and actually use it in your home then go with a used 871..
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scotsee, I am only finding wireless 871's so far but I will keep looking. Is the 520 considered an ASA appliance, I think the answer is yes. I also believe the 5505 is an ASA appliance. CISCO describes the 520 as a router but also describes the 5505 as an ASA appliance that needs a routing table. I have read documentation about the 5505 that shows it being used without an additional router. When I said that some places want to charge for information about the 5505 one of the questions was "can the 5505 be used without the addition of a router"? you had to pay to see the answer. I have also read online where it states the 5505 is not a router but does not make it clear if one is needed in conjunction with it. Topology from CISCO shows it being hooked up without an additional router. So what do you say about the 5505, is it also a router?

EDIT; Like I said I have two books comming from Amazon that deal strictly with ASA appliances and I have 2 security classes starting in a couple of weeks so I will get this figured out eventualy. Trouble with the classes are the instructors really want to stick to the syllabus and if ASA appliances are not on it, no go. I hope it is not two classes full of "safe browsing techniques". I do have hope though as one of the instructors is the CCNA prep man.
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post #8 of 16
ASA 5505 = ASA
SA 520 = SOHO Router /w security

ASA 5505 modes and routing: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/security/asa/asa72/asdm52/user/guide/ifcs5505.html Section: Maximum Active VLAN Interfaces for Your License

I am liking that 520.

520 - http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps9932/prod_models_comparison.html
5505 - http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps6120/prod_models_comparison.html#~mid-range

As stated before, stay away from the Pix models. The biggest problem you have is getting them to run atleast IOS version 7. I know the 515e will do it, but it is not worth getting one then upgrading the ram to run 7. Not to mention ASA come stock with version 8.x

I need to update my 501 to get away from the 10/full outside interface. You brought up setting up a web server and CCNA certification class. If you are doing CCNA, you have no need at this point to get an ASA. Take a look at the Cisco certification tracks. All of the hands on security was completely removed back in the beginning of June from the CCNP track. I finished the CCNP test before the change so I had the security on my test. To be honest, at that time you could pass it with any of the security devics that supported ASDM for the configuration.

As far as prices go... Used Cisco equipment has dropped tremendously in the last year and a half. Ebay is your friend when building a CCNA or CCNP lab.
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post #9 of 16
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Thanks a lot Thorn, I will get the jobs the pieces of equipment do figured out and I do tend to stray from where I really am in the program to where I develope a certain interest. I do need a better harware firewall for my home hosted website so I figured why not get CISCO eqyipment to do it even though I am way far away from that point in the course. I can run my site with the simple security procedures I have installed so far (permissions in the XP firewall and an htacess page on the actual site) and continue with my CISCO studies for probably a full year berfore ASA is on the table. Is the 5505 extremely tied to VPN's (meaning that is the only way it operates)?+rep

This is the site I refer too,it shows using the 5505 in a very "homey" setting,exactly like I want
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/security/asa/asa83/getting_started/5505/poster/5505-poster.html
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I would stay a way from the AS500 series if you are looking to invest money on learning Cisco products for Certifications. The AS500 is a Linux based operating system won't be in the exam room. On the other had if you want it for a purely "at-home" device there probably isn't anything better. You can't build a dedicated box for under $400.
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