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Hi folks

Friend of mine recently did his first build..perhaps foolishly I recommended him the Mugen 2, as it was the best price : performance cooler I knew of for a very long time..

Unfortunately, I have come to find out that it is one of the harder cooling systems to mount properly, and being a first time computer builder, it didn't quite turn out to plan.

His computer came together swimmingly, but when we ran Prime 95, his computer crashed in about 10-15 seconds, clearly pointing to a bad Mugen 2 mount.

Can anyone give some tips for me and him? I am going to guide him via webcam when he re-mounts tomorrow and I want to be as prepared as possible.

It is a Mugen 2 going on an Athlon II x4 640 inside an Antec 300, using NT-H1 paste.

Any tips would be well appreciated, thanks!
Edited by BlahBlahBlah - 1/1/11 at 7:39pm
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Hi folks

Friend of mine recently did his first build..perhaps foolishly I recommended him the Mugen 2, as it was the best priceerformance cooler I knew of for a very long time..

Unfortunately, I have come to find out that it is one of the harder cooling systems to mount properly, and being a first time computer builder, it didn't quite turn out to plan.

His computer came together swimmingly, but when we ran Prime 95, his computer crashed in about 10-15 seconds, clearly pointing to a bad Mugen 2 mount.

Can anyone give some tips for me and him? I am going to guide him via webcam when he re-mounts tomorrow and I want to be as prepared as possible.

It is a Mugen 2 going on an Athlon II x4 640 inside an Antec 300, using NT-H1 paste.

Any tips would be well appreciated, thanks!
are you sure its the heatsink mount causing problems? are you using software to monitor the temperature? if so what temps were you guys seeing?

as far as mounting it correctly, the best advise i can give you is to get the proper instructions if they came with the cooler, if not get them off the internet. Read all the instructions before you begin anything else. Once you start mounting everything follow the instructions step by step, and take your time its not a race.

i know this sounds like obvious stuff, but you would be suprised how many people mount this cooler improperly because they rushed through or misread/skipped a step in the instructions. But i highly recommend you try to get an updated set of instructions from the manufactuer website.

good luck i hope everything goes well.

edit: hey how much vcore you giving that 460gtx of yours to acheive 900mhz core? just curious.
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post #3 of 19
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are you sure its the heatsink mount causing problems? are you using software to monitor the temperature? if so what temps were you guys seeing?

as far as mounting it correctly, the best advise i can give you is to get the proper instructions if they came with the cooler, if not get them off the internet. Read all the instructions before you begin anything else. Once you start mounting everything follow the instructions step by step, and take your time its not a race.

i know this sounds like obvious stuff, but you would be suprised how many people mount this cooler improperly because they rushed through or misread/skipped a step in the instructions. But i highly recommend you try to get an updated set of instructions from the manufactuer website.

good luck i hope everything goes well.
We were using CoreTemp and HWMonitor..as far as I have read/understood, Core Temps for AMD processors are loopy, however it was idling at 19C according to CoreTemp..when we started Prime 95, it shot up to about 55 instantly, I was okay with that..then it climbed each second..65..75..85..90..and it was gone.

I did not supervise his mounting so I cannot say if it is proper, but I told him to follow the instructions closely. I was planning to do the same this time, follow instructions closely while I watch over webcam, but I was hoping for some specific pointers from people who have mounted it before

Edit: Voltage on my 460 is max stock, 1087
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take the mugen 2 out and set it upside down on the table or whatever
then put the mobo on top of it and let gravity do your work

just line up the mounting holes on the backplate, screw it in, and it should be fine.
    
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post #5 of 19
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take the mugen 2 out and set it upside down on the table or whatever
then put the mobo on top of it and let gravity do your work

just line up the mounting holes on the backplate, screw it in, and it should be fine.
I am really not sure what he did the first time but I will try it like this this time
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take the mugen 2 out and set it upside down on the table or whatever
then put the mobo on top of it and let gravity do your work

just line up the mounting holes on the backplate, screw it in, and it should be fine.
This is the way.
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This is the way.
So the motherboard needs to come out for this operation..joy

Thanks guys! +rep
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upside down works well, but you can also tape up the screw heads on the bottom, and mount it right-side up.

when the screw heads are taped up, you can set the cooler directly on top of the screws, and they will keep it elevated, so that the cooler isn't making contact with the paste.

slide a corner of the cooler mount off of a table, loosen the tape, start the screw, then put the tape back up on the screw head again.

when all four screws are started, you can pull the tape off of everything from underneath, and drop the cooler onto the paste.
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upside down works well, but you can also tape up the screw heads on the bottom, and mount it right-side up.

when the screw heads are taped up, you can set the cooler directly on top of the screws, and they will keep it elevated, so that the cooler isn't making contact with the paste.

slide a corner of the cooler mount off of a table, loosen the tape, start the screw, then put the tape back up on the screw head again.

when all four screws are started, you can pull the tape off of everything from underneath, and drop the cooler onto the paste.
Thanks for another suggestion..going to go with this one if the upside down mounting also yields P95 crashes -.-
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Hi folks

Friend of mine recently did his first build..perhaps foolishly I recommended him the Mugen 2, as it was the best price : performance cooler I knew of for a very long time..

Unfortunately, I have come to find out that it is one of the harder cooling systems to mount properly, and being a first time computer builder, it didn't quite turn out to plan.

His computer came together swimmingly, but when we ran Prime 95, his computer crashed in about 10-15 seconds, clearly pointing to a bad Mugen 2 mount.

Can anyone give some tips for me and him? I am going to guide him via webcam when he re-mounts tomorrow and I want to be as prepared as possible.

It is a Mugen 2 going on an Athlon II x4 640 inside an Antec 300, using NT-H1 paste.

Any tips would be well appreciated, thanks!

Can you describe what kind of crash? Blue screen mostly likely RAM/NB settings, if it freezes in OS and won't unfreeze, could be a voltage dip or incorrect voltage settings, thirdly, a sudden restart usually has to do with CPU temps.
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