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Hi Everyone,

I'm a brand new member to the site so please forgive me if I have placed this in the wrong section.

Its general PC help I am hoping you could help with. I have recently bought the video game F1 2010 and I have since been experiencing lag or jittery FPS during game play and I am uncertain what the cause is.

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Here is a quick look @ my PC Spec:
MB: Intel D975XBX
CPU: Pentium D 3.46Ghz w/ Hyper-Threading
Graphics: ATI Radeon HD 5830 1GB GDDR5
RAM: 4GB
Windows 7 Professional 32-bit
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F1 2010 Game Specs:
http://www.game-debate.com/games/ind...game=F1%202010

I've read some Quad Cores work with the MOBO despite it not 'Officially' being supported.
(http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/...-d975xbx-board Last Comment by Super...) Anyone know if this is Ok to do or not?

Any help is greatly appreciated,

Regards,

Daniel
Edited by rectified - 1/1/11 at 9:36pm
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vsync? driver update? known issues with various graphics cards? try looking into those areas first and see if it helps. im not familiar with the 5830 but the game may be maxing out that card's capabilities.
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vsync? driver update? known issues with various graphics cards? try looking into those areas first and see if it helps. im not familiar with the 5830 but the game may be maxing out that card's capabilities.
Hi Gerrardo,

Thanks for replying and helping me out.

Windows Update hasn't spotted any new drivers and the official website via AMD says I have the most recent driver. tbh I would be concerned if it was the Graphics as its relatively new, released Feb 2010. I've tried other games I have with their in game graphics maxed out and it seems to manage them fine. Granted the only other hi spec games I have are Red Alert 3 and Tiberium Wars. CPU runs at 60/80% on all processor channels on these whereas with the F1 2010 its never under 90%.

Double checking their minimum requirements for the game they state a ATi X1800 or NVIDIA 7800 & Core2Duo @ 2.4Ghz, I was under the impression the Pentium, with HT wud have been just as good as a Core2Duo for power? No?

Also, whats VSync?

Thanks for your help,

Regards
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Your Pentium D is no where near as good as a Core2Duo.

I'd be willing to bet alot of money that your CPU is the problem. It's pretty awful to put it bluntly.
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It's your Pentium D.

They are terribly slow.
Pentium D's are based off Netburst, which was a terrible architecture.
An Athlon 64 with 1 less core and clocked over 1Ghz lower will still beat a Pentium D in games. (And CPU's have advanced pretty far since Athlon 64)








The Athlon FX-57 is a 2.8Ghz Single Core processor with 1MB L2 cache.

and

http://www.anandtech.com/show/2960/12
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Hi Gerrardo,

Thanks for replying and helping me out.

Windows Update hasn't spotted any new drivers and the official website via AMD says I have the most recent driver. tbh I would be concerned if it was the Graphics as its relatively new, released Feb 2010. I've tried other games I have with their in game graphics maxed out and it seems to manage them fine. Granted the only other hi spec games I have are Red Alert 3 and Tiberium Wars. CPU runs at 60/80% on all processor channels on these whereas with the F1 2010 its never under 90%.

Double checking their minimum requirements for the game they state a ATi X1800 or NVIDIA 7800 & Core2Duo @ 2.4Ghz, I was under the impression the Pentium, with HT wud have been just as good as a Core2Duo for power? No?

Also, whats VSync?

Thanks for your help,

Regards
VSync doesn't allow the FPS in your games to go above your monitors refresh rate (probably 60Hz) so that you will have a smoother experience. Please note that this will not help very much if you are unable to reach 60 FPS.

It is most definitely your Processor. Look at this chip. It is one hell of a processor, probably the best core 2 duo they ever made. It is still a viable chip today. It overclocks extremely well, though I don't know how far that motherboard will let you overclock. It is a really great CPU regardless and would strongly recommend it.
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Hi guys, sorry for my delayed response.

Thanks for all your help, I can now start looking to fix this for good, this leads me to another, hopefully quick, question.

Does anyone know if I can get away with using a Quad Core processor? I've read maybe 2 at most, links/forums, that state they can use Quad Core in the Bad Axe although Intel dont 'Offically' support it; Something to do with the BIOS version? like rev.304 or something . I have very little knowledge about BIOS etc.

Looking at the CPU link provided - Looks amazing! I've also been checking out Core2Extreme X6800?

Many Thanks!

Daniel
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Hi guys, sorry for my delayed response.

Thanks for all your help, I can now start looking to fix this for good, this leads me to another, hopefully quick, question.

Does anyone know if I can get away with using a Quad Core processor? I've read maybe 2 at most, links/forums, that state they can use Quad Core in the Bad Axe although Intel dont 'Offically' support it; Something to do with the BIOS version? like rev.304 or something . I have very little knowledge about BIOS etc.

Looking at the CPU link provided - Looks amazing! I've also been checking out Core2Extreme X6800?

Many Thanks!

Daniel
For gaming, quad core processors often aren't necessary. For example, the game you listed (F1 2010) will only use 2 cores. You will basically get the exact same performance with the Core 2 Quad as you would a Core 2 Duo with the same frequency, except a Core 2 Duo typically has a higher frequency therefore the Core 2 Duo would actually outperform the Core 2 Quad.

The X6800 seems a little overpriced for the performance you will actually get. The E8400 will outperform the X6800 because it has a superior architecture.
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pentium d was a joke.
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For gaming, quad core processors often aren't necessary. For example, the game you listed (F1 2010) will only use 2 cores. You will basically get the exact same performance with the Core 2 Quad as you would a Core 2 Duo with the same frequency, except a Core 2 Duo typically has a higher frequency therefore the Core 2 Duo would actually outperform the Core 2 Quad.

The X6800 seems a little overpriced for the performance you will actually get. The E8400 will outperform the X6800 because it has a superior architecture.
I may be wrong here but doesnt the Bad Axe only support 1066Mhz FSB? as the E8400 is 1333 or something? I'm only using their site as a reference:
http://processormatch.intel.com/COMP...rdname=d975xbx

and thanks for the heads up Johnny Guitar... great help.

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