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Hi there everyone

I thought I might do a few benchies to compare a GTX 570 by itself vs a GTX 570 with a Dedicated GT230 for physx

This thread will be based towards anyone with a GTX 570 wondering if they should get a low end dedicated physx card to go with it.

For all of you wondering about the 230GT it is basically a refined 9600 GSO. It has 96 Cuda cores and 1.5GB of DDR2. I got the card in a prebuilt HP awhile back.
Heres the GPU-Z Screenie:

Attachment 187866

1920x1080
Everything Maxed
No AA for Batman
AA on for Mafia 2

Results:

Attachment 187867


As you can see from these results you wont get much of an increase in FPS with a dedicated low-end physx card and in with batman AA your better off without one. I ran each benchmark 3 times and got the median result (4 times in mafia 2 because it gives you a low score on the first run.)

If your looking for a Physx card to pair up with a GTX 570, the low end 200 series wont cut it.

Hope this helped some people.

If you've got any questions feel free to ask.


Edited by Mentoss - 1/2/11 at 5:56pm
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i been saying this for a while now but never had research to back it up
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Yeh, there was a thread some time back that compared a game (Sorry cannot remember) with a single 460 with a 460 with a selection of other GPUs.

The results made me laugh cause you needed basically 2x 460s for Physx with good results.

Even having a single 460 could handle better than using a lower GPU in the second slot. So worthless having a 8600, or 220-240.

+ Rep Mentoss for great results
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Interesting, especially the result of Batman AA.

Your finding apparently contradicts this (http://www.hardwareheaven.com/articl...d=138&pageid=4) where a lowly 9600GT (with only 64 SPs) can help out a GTX295.

My guess is that somehow Physx is not being done right in your setup. To be more specific, I suspect driver 'bug':-
At the moment, Nvidia has no official driver that supports both GTX570 and the 2xx series (and basically everything else). So, I suppose you are using 2 drivers simultaneously with one on top of the other, perhaps 260.99 for the GT230 and 263.09 for the GTX570. I think this might be a problem.

As soon as Nvidia releases a driver that includes the rest of the line series, I will install my 8800GTX as Dedicated Physx card. It has 128SPs at 1350MHz with 768MB GDDR3. And I think it should perform better than GT230 as the number of shaders (and the speed) is more important than amount of Vram. Unfortunately, I have neither Batman AA or Mafia 2 so I cannot run tests for comparison. And perhaps you can rerun your test when a new driver comes out.

And, a GTX285 from one of my other rigs is scheduled to retire from primary card active duty sometime in April. It should then replace the 8800GTX.

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Edited by windfire - 1/2/11 at 6:11am
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Windfire you can always Get Mafia II demo I believe that has the benchmark tool
downloading it right now to confirm

edit confirmed
Edited by AK-47 - 1/2/11 at 9:14am
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This was posted by Voxox afew months ago. Source from hardwarecanuks.com



Im still looking for the other thread i mentioned
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I've posted this a few times (Excerpt from my GTS450 review)


Relative performance gains should be similar with the GTX570 as well.

Mafia II average FPS only increases marginally, but gameplay feels much more smooth when using a dedicated physx card. The testing was done with a heavily overclocked GTX470.
    
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psh you mean 1.5 GB of DDR2 it couldn't do squat with 1.5 MB
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This thread will be based towards anyone with a GTX 570 wondering if they should get a low end dedicated physx card to go with it.

I am in this position ! thansk for the info !

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Interesting, especially the result of Batman AA.

Your finding apparently contradicts this (http://www.hardwareheaven.com/articl...d=138&pageid=4) where a lowly 9600GT (with only 64 SPs) can help out a GTX295.

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And, a GTX285 from one of my other rigs is scheduled to retire from primary card active duty sometime in April. It should then replace the 8800GTX.

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I did i clean install with 263.09 so there wasnt any remains of 260.99 so i dont think that that was the problem. Its probably a driver problem with 263.09 where a dedicated physx card isnt properly optimized.
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