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breaking in a battery doesnt do much to a li-ion battery. the old nickel metal hydride batteries did only because they developed a "memory"

li-ion doesnt get affected much by "breaking in" other than giving the owner (tech savvy) doing the breaking in peace of mind.
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breaking in a battery doesnt do much to a li-ion battery. the old nickel metal hydride batteries did only because they developed a "memory"

li-ion doesnt get affected much by "breaking in" other than giving the owner (tech savvy) doing the breaking in peace of mind.
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Is there proof for either side of the argument? At the moment it's one persons word against anothers.
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Is there proof for either side of the argument? At the moment it's one persons word against anothers.
It's not one persons word against another. I'm sure there is a number out there that has been researched that tells you how much a Lithium Ion battery benefits from being conditioned. It's not philosophical.
I'm simply saying that he show me where he learned that conditioning does little to help.
I'm not implying that it doubles the battery life at all. I'm would just like to know why he is stating that it does hardly anything.
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It's not one persons word against another. I'm sure there is a number out there that has been researched that tells you how much a Lithium Ion battery benefits from being conditioned. It's not philosophical.
I'm simply saying that he show me where he learned that conditioning does little to help.
I'm not implying that it doubles the battery life at all. I'm would just like to know why he is stating that it does hardly anything.
Yea... so where is this research? I'm saying in this thread, it's one persons word against anothers. I'm interested to see what people have researched.
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I'm not sure where us tech geeks got so entitled that we get enraged over having to do something as simple as battery conditioning on a high drain device. Android devices on the whole have had shorter battery life than iOS platform largely due to the multitasking that they perform. If you shut off all background tasks and make it so that the only way something runs is if it is actually open then I bet Evo would have a similar battery life to the iPhone.

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I know that not EVERY app on iPhone is closed when you can't see, I'm generalizing for the sake of the point I'm making, overall many more apps are open on Android platform than iOS at any given time.

Also it seems people aren't mentioning 4G, which takes significantly more battery power than 3G. Once again, when iPhone hits Verizon and gets LTE, I'm sure you will see a drop in battery life. The Evo is an amazing phone that runs fast and smooth and the only glaring issue I have seen overall is the battery life could be better. If you don't want to deal with it, get an iPhone, but don't come on a forum saying how HTC makes "horrible pieces of plastic". It's a quality device and I have never had a phone from HTC that broke from anything short of me ripping it onto the floor via catching my foot on the USB cable and yanking the charging port out.


Also, this reminds me of a conversation I had once:

"Man, I hate my netbook, it's so slow!"

"Well, you could just edit the startup and kill some background tasks to help it run a little smoother and save some battery life as well."

"God, I shouldn't have to do that, how stupid."

*sighs* "Maybe you should look into getting a Mac"
Do you not know that the iPhone multitasks and Appstore applications too? And you do realise there is hardly any 4G coverage only a few areas have 4G..
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Yea if I have to "break in" a battery on anything I buy, I'm not going to buy it. That's stupid. How many hours do you get? Saying it's over clocked yet under volted...and then gets better battery life makes no sense at all and is probably straight up false.
i thought everyone knew that to get the best performance from phone batteries (guessing others like laptops and such need it as well?) you need to use the item continually until the device shuts itself down THEN you charge it.

Charging it before hand will reduce the batteries ability to take charge thus reducing the amount of charge it can hold and then meaning that the device wont last as long when its "fully charged" compared to one that has been "broken in" as some put it
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Do you not know that the iPhone multitasks and Appstore applications too? And you do realise there is hardly any 4G coverage only a few areas have 4G..
iOS multitasking is a joke but since Steve Jobs said they've nailed it, it must be true.
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Do you not know that the iPhone multitasks and Appstore applications too? And you do realise there is hardly any 4G coverage only a few areas have 4G..
Pretty sure I pointed out that I wasn't saying the iPhone doesn't multitask at all. In fact I'm pretty sure I had a section in the middle dedicated to pointing that out. I'm saying that Android multitasks with more applications and syncs open at a given time than iPhone. I'm aware 4G coverage isn't everywhere. Are you aware that the places it is in has a much high population that places it isn't?

52 major cities were covered by Sprint 4G by last summer. Rounding way down for most of those cities, say a population of 500,000 each to be conservative, that's 26 million people covered by 4G. Obviously many of those people won't have Sprint or an Evo, but odds are good that the major chunk of people with Evo are living in large metropolitan areas seeing as most people wouldn't want to pay the 10 extra dollars for 4G when you can't even use it. (Present company excluded).

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i thought everyone knew that to get the best performance from phone batteries (guessing others like laptops and such need it as well?) you need to use the item continually until the device shuts itself down THEN you charge it.

Charging it before hand will reduce the batteries ability to take charge thus reducing the amount of charge it can hold and then meaning that the device wont last as long when its "fully charged" compared to one that has been "broken in" as some put it
That's the old Ni-Cd and Ni-MH that did that. It was called memory and Li-Ion don't have that issue at all. They still need conditioning to calibrate the devices battery meter to match the actual battery life. I know for a fact that discharging a Li-Ion battery all the way is horrible for it and that's why most devices actually shutoff before the battery really reaches 0.

Wiki: Li-Ion Batteries
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That's the old Ni-Cd and Ni-MH that did that. It was called memory and Li-Ion don't have that issue at all. They still need conditioning to calibrate the devices battery meter to match the actual battery life. I know for a fact that discharging a Li-Ion battery all the way is horrible for it and that's why most devices actually shutoff before the battery really reaches 0.

Wiki: Li-Ion Batteries
Ah that i didnt know, cheers for the info. So Li-Ion dont/shouldnt(?) need to be to run all the way down to get better battery. Isnt there some sort of new battery out or something? i remember reading about it a few months (or more) ago
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