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Is it possible to have a radiator in another room ?
Do you need extra pump ?
Can radiator go outside the house (to annoy neighbors and not me) ?
Does tube density have an effect on pressure ?
Can I use a good quality car radiator ?
Does shrouding effect performance ?
And do we need a new James Bond ?
All these and other important questions should be answerd in this thread.
Thanks for contributing.
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Is it possible to have a radiator in another room ?
Do you need extra pump ?
Can radiator go outside the house (to annoy neighbors and not me) ?
Does tube density have an effect on pressure ?
Can I use a good quality car radiator ?
Does shrouding effect performance ?
And do we need a new James Bond ?
All these and other important questions should be answerd in this thread.
Thanks for contributing.
Yes to all. Only one I'm not sure of is the tubing density. If they have the same inner diameter then they should flow at the same rate.
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if only i learned anything from my PHY132 fluids class... but just taking a stab at it, i think that car radiator will require a larger pump

oh and, whats wrong with our current james bond? i thought he was pretty bad ass in casino royale
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A car radiator is larger thus will require a larger pump, yes. This is assuming that it's a large car, pun intended.

The tube density shouldn't affect it. Obviously the smaller the ID of the tubing, the more pressure you're going to get.
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Thanks for quick answers
I only asked the tube density does affect my pneumatic Tattoo machines
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If you get a car radiator make sure it's all Copper, you don't want any AlCu oxidation nastyness.
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1 Is it possible to have a radiator in another room ?
2 Do you need extra pump ?
3 Can radiator go outside the house (to annoy neighbors and not me) ?
4 Does tube density have an effect on pressure ?
5 Can I use a good quality car radiator ?
6 Does shrouding effect performance ?
7 And do we need a new James Bond ?
All these and other important questions should be answerd in this thread.
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1 Yes, no problem
2 No, unless you have something like 20-30' worth, the tubing itself is a minor loss and almost too small to consider compared to the highly restrictive CPU block.
3 Yes, but you'll need to be careful about temps not going below dewpoint or you could have condensation problems in the PC and drip/short things out.
4 No, the pump and amount of restriction creates the pressure. The tubing just needs to have a high enough pressure to withstand that. Some tubings are less porous and have less evaporation and some prevent sunlight from getting to the fluid, but there is no difference thermally.
5 Yes if it's not aluminum, but few are. If it's aluminum, you run the risk of having problems with galvanic corrosion. It's best not to mess with that and stick with all copper/brass/nickel type metals in the same loop. Mixing aluminum will lead to problems sooner or later.
6 Yes, up to 30% benefit, well worth it if you can fit it.
7 Don't care, never noticed. I only watch for the female characters...
    
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