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Umm... everyone here is worried about dust on the sensor. That's a non-issue. It can be relatively easily cleaned.

And $250 is a pretty decent deal for all of that. Try the Sigma before selling it, you might actually like it. It's a decent focal range and isn't a bad beginner's lens... distortion will be considerable, but it can mostly be corrected by any number of programs.

If you find you really enjoy DSLR photography, I'd suggest selling all of it and moving to Canon. Nice lenses are a bit cheaper and the system is a bit more user friendly.
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Umm... everyone here is worried about dust on the sensor. That's a non-issue. It can be relatively easily cleaned.

And $250 is a pretty decent deal for all of that. Try the Sigma before selling it, you might actually like it. It's a decent focal range and isn't a bad beginner's lens... distortion will be considerable, but it can mostly be corrected by any number of programs.

If you find you really enjoy DSLR photography, I'd suggest selling all of it and moving to Canon. Nice lenses are a bit cheaper and the system is a bit more user friendly.
I doubt your average new photographer feels okay sticking a sensor wand in there. I'm pretty sure most people on this forum do cleaning themselves (myself included), but it's not to say that everyone feels comfortable doing so. Besides, even with a $100 lens I expect the equipment to be clean, let alone something worth $250.

And while I agree with the focal length, the distortion is the problem I have with the lens. Again, the OP is a beginner and I doubt he'd have a good software suite to fix distortion. Even then it'd have to be manually done since I doubt even LR would have lens data on that particular lens.

And finally, I disagree with the user friendly statement for Canon. It's a personal taste thing, honestly. Canon users find Canon cameras more comfortable, and Nikon users find Nikon cameras more comfortable. One isn't more user friendly than the other. Besides, I'd argue that the Guide Mode on the D3000 is more beginner-friendly than the Creative Auto mode on Canon (no damn clue why they even stuck that on my 50D, but that's a different story).
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Ok, for the picture on aperture setting, should I upload one with no subject or with a subject? The D3000 also says that it has a self-cleaning sensor.
Here is a picture of the inside of my sig rig. I'm just posting as a link so that there aren't any 56k issues. Thanks again for all the help.
http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/849/dsc0008kc.jpg
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Ok, for the picture on aperture setting, should I upload one with no subject or with a subject? The D3000 also says that it has a self-cleaning sensor.
Here is a picture of the inside of my sig rig. I'm just posting as a link so that there aren't any 56k issues. Thanks again for all the help.
http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/849/dsc0008kc.jpg
All modern DSLRs have self-cleaning functions, but it isn't perfect. The sensors have a thin film over them that vibrate at very high frequencies, which in theory should shake off all the dust. While this works almost all the time, there will be some instances where there's a stubborn particle that refuses to bug off. I've had that happen to me before. The only two options are to take a sensor wand to your sensor (harmless really if you know what you're doing, although most people are hestitant to do so) or send it in for a warranty repair and service (which you can't do since your camera is second-hand).

As for your image itself, the aperture isn't narrow enough. Your EXIF data shows only f/4.

Like I said, the easiest method would be to set your dial to "A" and turn that wheel all the way to the right. It should stop somewhere high like f/14.

Also, can you take a picture of your wall instead? Light colored surfaces work better than dark colored surfaces, and there's dust on your table which will make it hard to tell if the sensor is dirty. Besides, this is an image quality test, not an art test
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That image was just done on auto. Here is a piece of paper. The black dot in the upper-right is on the paper itself.

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Do you mind taking another picture at the same settings of a different subject? Try a wall or a different sheet of paper that didn't come from the same ream. I have some issues and am not sure if it's a dirty sensor or just the paper itself.

Some things I'm worried about
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Here is another piece of paper from a different pack.
http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/5428/dsc0026ch.jpg
I can see some similarities in dots between the images.
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Yea, it looks like either the lens or the image sensor is dirty. It's up to you if this is alright with you, but it bugs the hell out of me because those spots will show up on every picture if you don't find and clean the dirty gear.

Of course, a second opinion would be appreciated here
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Thanks again for all of your help r31ncarnat3d and others. I don't notice the dust in pictures. I can't overstate my satisfaction.
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