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post #261 of 457
I thought he was saying a Gulftown (six cores) is faster than a Sandy Bridge (four cores), clock for clock. In most heavily threaded apps, he'd be right. Of course, Gulftowns are ripoffs at full retail price.

Outside of a few niche applications, there is no way I'd recommend 1366 over 1155 for a brand new build.

On the other hand, 1155 isn't so much faster as to be a compelling upgrade if you already have a decent 1156 or 1366 build.
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The 1366 socket is faster clock for clock when compared to the 1155. That being said, I have worked with 3 SB CPUs(2x2600k and 1x2500k) and they do overclock better than most of the 1366s ive worked with.

If you have ~3Ghz 980x with 4 cores enabled and a ~3Ghz 2600k with 4 cores enabled, the 980x will be slighly faster, but this is also dependant on the Mobo being used and other components as there is no way to use exactly the same equipment with P67 and X58.
Going by the bench scores t's just the opposite, a 2500k or 2600k blows everything else away at the same clocks/# of cores. The only advantages the 980x has are being able to clock higher & more cores/threads still win in multithreaded apps.
    
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Well I am going to do it anyway and see what happens.

Edit: Ill run the 980x with both 6 cores and 4 cores.
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post #264 of 457
Gulftown is not faster than SB, core for core.

SB has a handful of architectural advantages, and a NB that is going to be about 40-50% faster when both chips are OCed. This more than makes up for the larger L3 on the Gulftown.

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Also kiwi we're talking about Vantage and it's relation to gaming - Find me 10 games to bench that use all 6 cores 12 threads.
Vantage has almost no relation to gaming and few games are going to show much of any difference at common resolutions/settings between most any high end (1156, 1366, or 1155 quad at 4GHz plus) CPU setup.
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We already know the 980x is slightly faster in multi-threaded apps.

It's hard to overcome 2 additional cores and 4 more threads. Much the same as the AMD x6 is often faster than x4 i7's in multi-threaded apps.
    
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I thought he was saying a Gulftown (six cores) is faster than a Sandy Bridge (four cores), clock for clock.
There is a very simple single core app out there that will run for about 4 hours that can give you a GREAT comparison without using any hyperthreading or parallelism.

http://www.liquidnitrogenoverclockin...shtml#page_top

That little "checkers" database generator is about as perfect as you can get. I have never seen a variance of more than 1 second in any of its reported times to complete (unlike CineBench, which RARELY gives the same exact score on the same machine!)

And, it uses just one core, and it seems to scale perfectly with the true CPU performance. It also shows that an i5-2500K @ 5.1 GHz can nudge out a Gulftown @ 5.27 GHz, which, to me, was incredible.
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We already know the 980x is slightly faster in multi-threaded apps.
And we already know it's slower in weakly threaded ones.

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It's hard to overcome 2 additional cores and 4 more threads.
Which is the main reason why 1366 isn't quite dead yet.

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Much the same as the AMD x6 is often faster than x4 i7's in multi-threaded apps.
I'd say rarely, rather than "often". Still, it was more than enough to at least justify the upgrade if you had an AM3.

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(unlike CineBench, which RARELY gives the same exact score on the same machine!)
I get the same score in Cinebench every time I run it, as long as nothing else is running in the background.

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It also shows that an i5-2500K @ 5.1 GHz can nudge out a Gulftown @ 5.27 GHz, which, to me, was incredible.
That sounds about exactly what I would expect from a 6MB L3 SB vs Gulftown. Would like to know the NB clock on the Gulftown though.
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1366 gives full sli support.. 1156 u have to run at x8/x8 or buy a nf200 board
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I get the same score in Cinebench every time I run it, as long as nothing else is running in the background.
Really?

I don't even get the same score if I click on the button right after the tests just completed! Nothing running in the background.

Weird.
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And we already know it's slower in weakly threaded ones.

Which is the main reason why 1366 isn't quite dead yet.



I'd say rarely, rather than "often". Still, it was more than enough to at least justify the upgrade if you had an AM3.
1. Which includes 99% of games.

2. 1366 is fine, its not bad or slow, its just not the best value, nor was it really ever.

3. Enough for the price difference to call it a better value if your thing was multi-threaded - but it applies here as well since the 980x may be faster than the i5-2500k, but in gaming it isn't and if thats what you're doing, then 1366 isn't the place to be anyways.

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1366 gives full sli support.. 1156 u have to run at x8/x8 or buy a nf200 board

x8x8 is shown to be about a 3-4% lost in performance. Given most people on 1366 aren't running tri or even sli it's not really an issue.
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