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Poll Results: 1366 or 1155?

 
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post #401 of 457
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Originally Posted by kiwiasian View Post
It's common knowledge that sandy bridge processors are faster...
It's a matter of how much you get in return for the money you pay, which thus makes it a sidegrade.
No, it thus makes it "not worth it", not a "sidegrade". There's a difference, and that is why I said this.
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Originally Posted by Princess Garnet View Post
Remember, I am not talking about if it's enough to justify an upgrade to you. Understandably so, it is probably not. After gains for cost is factored in, to many current LGA 1366 owners, there's not a big compelling reason to go for it. At the same time, if you did do it, it would still be an upgrade, not a sidegrade, and certainly not a downgrade. There's a difference between a bad jump and calling something else no more than your equal. That's the point I'm trying to make.
If I had a GeForce GTX 560 Ti (as I do), and went out and got a GeForce GTX 570, is it a sidegrade? No. It is an upgrade. It might be a poor performance jump for the dollar, and thus not worth it, but it's still going up in performance.
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Originally Posted by TheBlademaster01 View Post
No, an upgrade is independant of price, it's a fact. if A > B then A is an upgrade over B. A 990X costs a lot more than an i7 970, but it's still an upgrade since it's a better performer right out of the box. Whether the upgrade is worth it should be considered individually.
Yes, this.
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Originally Posted by kiwiasian View Post
Yes, I mentioned that. On paper it is an upgrade. Personally I don't consider it to be. Price/performance is the most important thing to me, perhaps not others.
It does matter to most of us. I even said I skipped LGA 1366 for this reason.

While you bring this up though, let me ask this.

Why do many LGA 1366 users say LGA 1155 isn't worth the money for the jump, but then claim to be waiting for LGA 2011? That makes little sense. From what I understand, LGA 2011 is going to offer minimal increase over current Sandy Bridge CPUs, but for proportionately greater cost, and all to see Ivy Bridge turn around and hit LGA 1155 first. Therefore, if LGA 1155 isn't a good buy for LGA 1366 users, then it's kind of hypocritical to say LGA 2011 is, no? Wouldn't they be better served by waiting for Haswell and seeing a more meaningful jump?

There may be few cases where it is "worth it" for an LGA 1366 user to go to LGA 2011, again, namely if you're going with six core variants, but I would guess that most people going with LGA 2011 are probably going to get it's Core i7 920 equivalent, the garden variety bare bottom, so if we assume that, how is that a better buy than what's out now?
post #402 of 457
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Originally Posted by Princess Garnet View Post
No, it thus makes it "not worth it", not a "sidegrade". There's a difference, and that is why I said this.If I had a GeForce GTX 560 Ti (as I do), and went out and got a GeForce GTX 570, is it a sidegrade? No. It is an upgrade. It might be a poor performance jump for the dollar, and thus not worth it, but it's still going up in performance.Yes, this.
It does matter to most of us. I even said I skipped LGA 1366 for this reason.

While you bring this up though, let me ask this.

Why do many LGA 1366 users say LGA 1155 isn't worth the money for the jump, but then claim to be waiting for LGA 2011? That makes little sense. From what I understand, LGA 2011 is going to offer minimal increase over current Sandy Bridge CPUs, but for proportionately greater cost, and all to see Ivy Bridge turn around and hit LGA 1155 first. Therefore, if LGA 1155 isn't a good buy for LGA 1366 users, then it's kind of hypocritical to say LGA 2011 is, no? Wouldn't they be better served by waiting for Haswell and seeing a more meaningful jump?

There may be few cases where it is "worth it" for an LGA 1366 user to go to LGA 2011, again, namely if you're going with six core variants, but I would guess that most people going with LGA 2011 are probably going to get it's Core i7 920 equivalent, the garden variety bare bottom, so if we assume that, how is that a better buy than what's out now?
I haven't been doing much reading about upcoming Intel processors as of late but back when there was a huge Sandy hype it was known that Ivy processors would be the new 22nm fabrication process (or 14nm I don't remember) and it would be a huuuuge upgrade from what is currently the enthuiast platform. With such a huge upgrade, and replacing the current enthusiast platform, that is certainly something worth waiting for.
post #403 of 457
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Originally Posted by kiwiasian View Post
I haven't been doing much reading about upcoming Intel processors as of late but back when there was a huge Sandy hype it was known that Ivy processors would be the new 22nm fabrication process (or 14nm I don't remember) and it would be a huuuuge upgrade from what is currently the enthuiast platform. With such a huge upgrade, and replacing the current enthusiast platform, that is certainly something worth waiting for.
Ivy Bridge isn't exclusive to LGA 2011. Ivy Bridge is going to be available on LGA 1155 as well, and will even be available on that platform first (and for cheaper) if I remember right.
post #404 of 457
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So that's good right?
Faster and cheaper?
post #405 of 457
Buy sandy bridge if you are upgrading from a dual core or something. Stick with 1366 if you've got an i7 920 or something, you really won't notice the difference.
post #406 of 457
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Originally Posted by snelan View Post
Annnndddd that's what the Big Bang's For.

Or maybe the Maximus IV?
None of those have PCI slots.
Why aren't you getting that I want a PCI slot for my frigging $310 sound card.

Or are you thinking that PCI = PCI-E?

If it's a board with a PCI slot closer than 3 slots from the PCI-E from the underside it's not an available PCI slot.

If it's a PCI slot above the PCI-E it's usable.
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post #407 of 457
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None of those have PCI slots.
Why aren't you getting that I want a PCI slot for my frigging $310 sound card.

Or are you thinking that PCI = PCI-E?

If it's a board with a PCI slot closer than 3 slots from the PCI-E from the underside it's not an available PCI slot.

If it's a PCI slot above the PCI-E it's usable.
The ASUS P8P67 PRO has 2 PCI slots. One of them, the one below the upper PCI-E Slot will not hinder any Dual slot GPU cooler. EVO and Deluxe also, for that matter.


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post #408 of 457
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So that's good right?
Faster and cheaper?
That's sort of my point. Why go with LGA 2011 calling it a worthy upgrade, when what it brings (at least most of what matters of it) is not only available now, but for cheaper? There are exceptions to this, like six core offerings, but as I said, I guarantee you most of the people are just going to go after the bottom offering for the platform, so unless all of LGA 2011's offerings are at least six core CPUs, it makes no sense to call that worthy, but to say LGA 1155 isn't (unless LGA 2011 has some other serious benefits, not moot ones, that I am unaware of).

In my honest opinion, most LGA 1366 users are probably better served waiting for Haswell. If they need an upgrade in the meantime, unless you want a six core offering, swallow the pride and go with LGA 1155 because it seems to me like it's essentially the same thing for less money.
post #409 of 457
I'm pretty sure quad core LGA 2011 will be faster than the 2600K. Otherwise it would be kinda pointless to try and sell them.
post #410 of 457
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STOP using benchmarks that do not utilize all 6 cores of the 980x to a SB processor and say that a 2500k beats the 980x.
Why not "stop using benchmarks that utilize 6 cores but don't utilize AVX"?
what will happen when software catches up with AVX? SB will destroy x6 in many of those heavily threaded apps where Gulftown has an edge now.
Seriously, I would think twice before going with 1366 at this point even for multitask stuff. I could be completely wrong expecting software to take advantage of AVX in the near future though. Does anyone know what's the trend here?
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