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Poll Results: 1366 or 1155?

 
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post #411 of 457
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Originally Posted by Wulfgar View Post
I'm pretty sure quad core LGA 2011 will be faster than the 2600K. Otherwise it would be kinda pointless to try and sell them.
Well, that's the thing. I'm doubting it will be by much, which is why I am asking why it's worth it, since this is the model I imagine most are going to grab.

Both are going to be the going to be the same architecture, as both are Sandy Bridge. I don't think Sandy Bridge E is anything "new", rather just a designation to indicate it's the higher end platform model. If that's so, then here's what we know.

The Core i7 2600K is a four core, eight thread, 3.4GHz stock, 3.8GHz Turbo, 8MB L2 cache Sandy Bridge.

According to this, the quad core base LGA 2011 model will only be marginally better. The Core i7 3820 (notice no K) is a four core, eight thread, 3.6GHz stock, 3.8GHz turbo, 10MB L2 cache Sandy Bridge.

So.... it's pretty much the same thing, but has 200Mhz more stock speed, 2MB L2 cache, and is not fully unlocked. Whether this means overclocking is limited like the current non-K CPUs, or like the old Nehalem, is unknown, but I can say this. It's not looking to be any better (I say it's worse if it can't overclock), yet you're going to have to pay more for the platform and quad channel RAM.

So, I ask again. Why are you LGA 1366 users even looking at LGA 2011 if you say LGA 1155 isn't worth it? Unless you're planning on dropping like $700 (or whatever amount) on the six core model, the four core model is not really better (maybe worse?) than what LGA 1155 has now, plus costs more.

On top of that, Ivy Bridge is looking to hit LGA 1155 Q1 2012, but not LGA 2011 until three quarters later (Q4 2012), so if you get the LGA 2011 quad core model, you'll be behind again real fast once LGA 1155 gets Ivy Bridge a mere few months later (and rumors are Ivy Bridge may bring six core models to LGA 1155, and maybe 8 core models to LGA 2011?).

Can someone explain why LGA 2011, at least anything but the top/expensive models, is even worth it unless you are getting the six core CPU or above? The four core model is a joke, unless it has some secret advantage we don't know of yet. It's looking to be no more worth it if LGA 1155 isn't now.

Just my honest speculation. I could be wrong/overlooking something.
Edited by Princess Garnet - 7/18/11 at 10:02pm
post #412 of 457
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The ASUS P8P67 PRO has 2 PCI slots. One of them, the one below the upper PCI-E Slot will not hinder any Dual slot GPU cooler. EVO and Deluxe also, for that matter.

Do you have trouble reading?
Using 3 slot SLI on that rig leaves me with a PCI-E 1X only.

Let me do it easy for you lot.

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It's been proven (long ago) that SB is no worse when used in single and double GPU configurations and of the few tripple 580 setups i've seen it throws out fantastic results, but i never bothered to compare the results because they are so good.

Throw in awesome overclocking and a resonable price, you would be silly to not go with 1155 for a new system unless you had a very specific purpose for the 6 core 1366 variants.

Now lets strap ourselves in for BD and SB-E
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It's been proven (long ago) that SB is no worse when used in single and double GPU configurations and of the few tripple 580 setups i've seen it throws out fantastic results, but i never bothered to compare the results because they are so good.

Throw in awesome overclocking and a resonable price, you would be silly to not go with 1155 for a new system unless you had a very specific purpose for the 6 core 1366 variants.

Now lets strap ourselves in for BD and SB-E
I think that sooner than most of use had hoped, 6 cores will be the norm and 4 cores will be what we now view 2 cores as.
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I think that sooner than most of use had hoped, 6 cores will be the norm and 4 cores will be what we now view 2 cores as.
There's two problems with that argument.

First of all, the majority of LGA 1366 is probably made up of your standard fare Core i7 920 or some form of quad core CPU, so that's not even a full point towards the argument in LGA 1366's favor.

The other thing is, by time that happens anyway (and it's most all but likely a way off, as we're still not even fully at a point of quad core reliance being a "necessary"), LGA 1366 will be rather old news anyway. Besides the hex core CPUs, it sort of already is falling the way of LGA 775, so in the future when time six core CPUs hit LGA 1155 and eight core CPUs hit LGA 2011 (rumored to happen with Ivy Bridge, if not then it will all but sure be so with Haswell), then you'll see.

Will a hex core LGA 1366 CPU be usable, capable even, years from now? Sure. My Core 2 Duo is these days, but much like it, it'll be generations behind and old news, and newer and better will be readily available at at least the mainstream level.
post #416 of 457
Why is everyone stating the obvious.... Investing in computers is the WORST investment.

Its like buying a 100 thousand dollar car and driving it off the lot for the dealer to laugh at you and say HAHA now its only worth 80 grand... then the next year model comes out with more toys and features. No matter how you wanna slice it what we own right now IS out of date. Who knows what they got cooking in the back at INTEL or AMD... there are probably CPUs that w don't even know about. Remember we can't handle getting all technology at once.. which is why we get it in shifts.
    
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Intel knows what they are doing. Triple channel memory was a failure, and the excess bandwidth is quite literally useless, so they've been scrapped.
Sorry if this was said before, I just didn't feel like reading all of those pages of posts!!!!!!

But, I will say this!
Intel's triple channel memory was not a fail!
In fact, at that time it far out performed the dual channel DDR3 on the 1156 boards.

The huge difference today, is the IMC's, which is on die in the Sandy's, and simply on chip in the 1st gen i7's, and the Westmere's.
This was just one of the improvements that were made, with the Sandy Bridge.

I haven't seen any side by side benching results, but I think the Sandy's edge out the Westmere's triple channel. But not buy a spectacular amount.

& as I said, if this was brought up before, sorry.
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post #418 of 457
Please just stop
1155 for gaming
1366 for professional use
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post #419 of 457
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Sorry if this was said before, I just didn't feel like Intel's triple channel memory was not a fail!
In fact, at that time it far out performed the dual channel DDR3 on the 1156 boards.
It's been a while after their release and I still haven't seen a single application where triple channel outperforms dual channel. Only the Sysoft Sandra memory benchmark

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/46?vs=107
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according to http://guru3d.com/news/bridge-delay-...s-intel-money/

"DigiTimes heard rumors that Intel has decided to halt its plans to upgrade to a 22nm process at Fab 24 and delayed the launch of the Ivy Bridge chips by one quarter to save costs. The article claims the measures are the result of a weaker-than-expected PC market.

Intel has recently decided to delay its Ivy Bridge platform launch from the end of 2011 to March 2012, while notebook models with the new platform will start appearing in the channel in April to allow a smooth transition between the existing Sandy Bridge platform and the new platform.

Since Intel internally has evaluated that PC demand for the upcoming year may not be as strong as before, the company has recently adjusted its investment schedule for semiconductor equipment."
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